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  1. #471
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    RiceisNice's Avatar
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mycow8me View Post
    For ppl who get there first job to 60, they have to aquire a full set of law gear including jewelry before they can even do alex norm. You cant get a single eso armor your first week. Forget voidark, the ilvl is even higher. Its ridiculous just getting to the point of being able to raid. Way to discourage would be raiders to the raiding community.
    This is what I've been replying to for the record, I should have clarified since I couldn't quote on phone.

    Edit : and I just realized my copy pasta didn't make it over for some reason.

    Tl;dr : If you can't find the time to gear yourself up (and I'm talking i200+, because that's more or less what A3s and onward demands), you probably can't find the time to commit to hitting those raids, either. A1s and A2s is do-able with full i190, moreso with some 200 pieces.

    Players excluding people out of PF for having <i200 is a player created problem, so the solution can also be player-created by making your own PF for learning parties (assuming that's what you're going for to begin with).
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    Last edited by RiceisNice; 01-18-2016 at 07:05 AM.
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  2. #472
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    Mindy_Macready's Avatar
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    Mindy Macready
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    Lamia
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    You know what would make getting into raiding easier for new players? Friggin craftable raid-capable gear.
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  3. #473
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    Mycow8me's Avatar
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    Tolby Seyfert
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindy_Macready View Post
    You know what would make getting into raiding easier for new players? Friggin craftable raid-capable gear.
    3.2 crafting gear is going to be within this spectrum and it will be meldable. I honestly thought about just forgetting everything until this stuff came out but where's the fun in that. At the very least I've been trying to prepare a few crafting classes but yeah, I fully agree with you.

    Edit: I'd even be happy to be able to create gear for myself that automatically binds on creation. Somewhat feel like crafters get the shaft for anything other than making money during certain points between patches.
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    Last edited by Mycow8me; 01-18-2016 at 06:27 AM.

  4. #474
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    UBERHAXED's Avatar
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    Seraph Khalid
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    Quote Originally Posted by FizzleofHyperion View Post
    About your hunts if hunts are really that ruined as you say it can also be easily fixed by giving an S rank atleast a 1 minute or 2 minute invulnerable buff from spawn time so people can get there. Hunts are meant for all the idea I presented was more of a group activity prefered an LS/FC/own world content to make the game more personal outside of duty finder.
    Not only do you not understand the problem, but you are part of the problem. Hunts are not intended to be zerged down by the whole server. They are meant to be a challenge to take down by a couple of parties, not 1000 people. The moment you understand what the problem is then you can being a position to suggest things to fix it. What you are suggesting further compounds the problem.
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  5. #475
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    I'm sure that PF ilvl 190 will take forever to fill up in FF14 game community.
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  6. #476
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pompompar View Post
    I'm sure that PF ilvl 190 will take forever to fill up in FF14 game community.
    You always have the option of not specifying an ilvl. If you are too low for the encounter you'll just get stopped at the door.
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  7. #477
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    This is what I've been replying to for the record, I should have clarified since I couldn't quote on phone.

    Edit : and I just realized my copy pasta didn't make it over for some reason.

    Tl;dr : If you can't find the time to gear yourself up (and I'm talking i200+, because that's more or less what A3s and onward demands), you probably can't find the time to commit to hitting those raids, either. A1s and A2s is do-able with full i190, moreso with some 200 pieces.

    Players excluding people out of PF for having <i200 is a player created problem, so the solution can also be player-created by making your own PF for learning parties (assuming that's what you're going for to begin with).
    There is also ilvl 200 doesn't mean good player. I remember when I host thordan ex pt last month i always set my ilvl to 200 and still there are fails. More than i200 sometime i look at what gear do they have after we enter the raid. if all they have are i210 pink and eso gear i tend to get a bit worry. I would prefer people that doesn't exactly have i200 but have gordian gear.
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  8. #478
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    Uberhaxed: Thats not beeing part of any problem its a solution to help EVERYONE enjoy content. Its making sure that everyone can enjoy content by showing how people from multiple hunt linkshells can work together.
    I'm sorry that you feel that you and your selfish group of 7 others should solo stuff themselves without calling out an S-Rank. Its this gaming mentality that needs to be erased from this game! Let me guess you must have come from WoW to this and still refer to an FC as a guild? You are probably a non legacy server aswell wich pretty much preaches this incredibly toxic gaming envoirment where everything circulates around the individual instead of US/TEAM.
    Regardless of what I think of Yoshi P he put most of these things so we can work together as a server to treat your fellow player as part of the community and envoirment not this strange competition you feel would ruin the game.
    My suggestion will uplift it. It will give players with crazy loading times on consoles to be able to do an S-Rank or someone who feels that they where not good enough to actually feel they could shout for an invite and get it and be able to do the S rank and get the acheivement and seals. What do I know huh? Caring for other players without asking for anything in return that are less fortunate than you as a gamer seems to bother you?
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    Last edited by FizzleofHyperion; 01-18-2016 at 10:37 AM.

  9. #479
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Quote Originally Posted by FizzleofHyperion View Post
    Uberhaxed: Thats not beeing part of any problem its a solution to help EVERYONE enjoy content. Its making sure that everyone can enjoy content by showing how people from multiple hunt linkshells can work together.
    I'm sorry that you feel that you and your selfish group of 7 others should solo stuff themselves without calling out an S-Rank. Its this gaming mentality that needs to be erased from this game! Let me guess you must have come from WoW to this and still refer to an FC as a guild? You are probably a non legacy server aswell wich pretty much preaches this incredibly toxic gaming envoirment where everything circulates around the individual instead of US/TEAM.
    Regardless of what I think of Yoshi P he put most of these things so we can work together as a server to treat your fellow player as part of the community and envoirment not this strange competition you feel would ruin the game.
    My suggestion will uplift it. It will give players with crazy loading times on consoles to be able to do an S-Rank or someone who feels that they where not good enough to actually feel they could shout for an invite and get it and be able to do the S rank and get the acheivement and seals. What do I know huh? Caring for other players without asking for anything in return that are less fortunate than you as a gamer seems to bother you?
    The problem with hunts is they are broken encounters with no actual gameplay. Might as well have a vending machine that hands out rewards. As content they are only popular because of the rewards involved rather than the actual gameplay.

    Your hardly being diplomatic and community minded with what is a rather condescending post by the way.

    Still, I don't think an immunity will solve the problem much. The issue there is usually with hunts they are found a while after they have spawned anyway so their immunity will probably have run out before it serves it's intended purpose.
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  10. #480
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    Ibi Risasi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindy_Macready View Post
    You know what would make getting into raiding easier for new players? Friggin craftable raid-capable gear.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mycow8me View Post
    3.2 crafting gear is going to be within this spectrum and it will be meldable.
    3.2 crafting gear will be in that spectrum, but will most likely be far, far out of the price range of any new player.
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