Hardcore is not a dirty word

[Pandastirfry]

there are plenty of people who play a game, thoroughly enjoy it, and still hang out on the forums. Enjoyment = dead forums is a false correlation.

@ Seikninkuru

Again people are forgetting that FF11 pre WOTG and Abysea was hardcore, and successful in light of WoW which is the outlier.

and @ Charismatic

You categorize FF11 as casual? O.o i don't think you understand the terms hardcore or casual, which is pry the root of you not understanding my post.

I played FFXI from NA release and quit just after WotG...it wasn't hardcore, it was grindtastic, it was moderately successful and when WoW came out my server's pop went from 5,000~ avg at NA prime time to less than 2000~ avg at NA prime time and never rebounded by the time I quit

FFXI was the outlier...and I'm saying this as someone who enjoyed the game*


*well to be honest I liked goofing around with my LS mates the game itself was boring as sin.