Anima Weapon Gil Cost

[Tremara]

Crafting was always a huge part of FFXIV, so no surprise that crafting is part of the relic quest.

And I also didn't want to waste Gil on the relic items, so my (2) friends and I splitted the crafting specialisation between us. My specialisations are LTW, WVR and CRP. A bonus for us was that we all had at least one gatherer at max. level. So we gathered all materials, crafted the relic items and only had to pay for some melds needed to hit the requirements with buff food.
16 items for 200k Gil max.

There are always alternatives to get the items. Don't get stuck with the idea that you have to buy them.

[Ultimatecalibur]

Crafting was always a huge part of FFXIV, so no surprise that crafting is part of the relic quest.

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There are always alternatives to get the items. Don't get stuck with the idea that you have to buy them.

I don't think people are mad about the fact crafts are included in the relic quest, but are mad at the crazy markup most of the "greedy crafters" are selling them for on the English servers. None of the the components are crazy hard to get as you pointed out (unlike the Zodiacs which required Big Fish and desyned mats. The crafted items that required those cost around 100k during their heyday on most servers). Few would be complaining if they were selling for 50k to 100k on the MB, but as people are pointing out they are being sold for 10 to 20 times as much.

[Andrea]

The crafted items that required those cost around 100k during their heyday on most servers). Few would be complaining if they were selling for 50k to 100k on the MB, but as people are pointing out they are being sold for 10 to 20 times as much.

If people didn't buy them then they wouldn't be at that price.

IMO it takes time and either money or more time to get crafters up to the level to make the relic items and I see whatever the crafter sells it for is fair price.

Dont know if im reading your example right but why would someone sell something that costs 100k to make for 50k - 100k? there's no profit in that at all >.<

I see the relic crafted items as pretty fair, you have four to obtain them really.

1. Buy them
2. Level crafters and make them
3. Get the mats for them and pay a small tip to a crafter to make
4. wait till price drop

[Zojha]

I see the relic crafted items as pretty fair, you have three four to obtain them really.

I just hope next time we can gate stuff behind rare triple triad drops, ideally from Lewena. Maybe something that's highly relevant for crafters, just for a change, you know?

Call me vindictive, but I'd "love" to tell people who cry over that to just gather cards themselves, buy it from friends or wait for a price drop.

[Andrea]

I just hope next time we can gate stuff behind rare triple triad drops, ideally from Lewena. Maybe something that's highly relevant for crafters, just for a change, you know?

Call me vindictive, but I'd "love" to tell people who cry over that to just gather cards themselves, buy it from friends or wait for a price drop.

Crafters have stuff gated for them too behind either combat or gathering. Which they also have said options available to them.

Also none of the drops needed for the relic are rare nor do they require RNG so thats a pretty strange example to say the least.

[Colorful]

Crafters have stuff gated for them too behind either combat or gathering. Which they also have said options available to them.

Also none of the drops needed for the relic are rare nor do they require RNG so thats a pretty strange example to say the least.

I think people are bothered because this game wasn't designed in a way that crafting/gathering plays a major role. Before you crafters get up in arms, I mean in terms of other MMOs where crafting is integrated into the core gameplay, let's say Runescape, Albion Online, ArcheAge, all are examples that people have likely heard about. In FFXIV it's sort of a "side" thing that sometimes plays an important role, and at other times, doesn't. The worst part is the huge investment and gil required to get into crafting, the specialist system which was meant to fix the omnicrafting system only made crafting worse without fixing anything.

No one wants to spend potentially 100+ hours leveling all the crafters if they don't enjoy crafting, so telling them to "Go level crafting and gathering and then do it." isn't a viable answer, and will just annoy them. They could socialize and make crafter friends, but due to the specialist system they'd need multiple friends who craft. Besides, if your sole purpose of making a friend is to utilize their crafting classes, you're not a friend, you're just using them for your own gain. Regardless of that, I don't think it's best to pin it on lazy players but rather SE. It was a horrible choice, it does nothing but funnel gil into the pockets of rich crafters and for what? There's nothing for those crafters to spend it on anyway as they can just make every expensive item. What they should have done is have a vendor sell the items at 100,000-200,000 each, so that it's a decent gil sink while being costly but not too costly.

[Andrea]

Stuff.

Oh I totally agree that its not the best way the could of done it and I also agree with everything you said.

Being a person who can't craft the relic items I know what option I have to choose from and as I said above I feel thats fair to me.

I can understand why people are and can be upset because of it im not trying to say that my opinion is fact or anything if it came across that way.

[Zojha]

Also none of the drops needed for the relic are rare nor do they require RNG so thats a pretty strange example to say the least.

Objection! If you go the treasure map route, there is RNG :P. That aside, I was just making adjustments to get the Triple Triad grind on par with the grind required to get all crafting classes up to 60 to make the items, then gathering the materials on top...for which you need a gatherer up as well. Oh, and I forgot you have to equip all of those as well! And from what I "gather", you need your weekly capped red scrips to get the soulstones as well. For which you again need items to turn in. For which you need materials you need to gather.

You know, now that I think about it, you are right: I'm being far too mild with the Triple Triad example.

Frankly, unless you do that content anyway for fun, it's not a realistic option to suggest, that's the point I'm making. It's simply too much investment in a type of content that is not remotely desired by the person and the example only serves to give you a perspective, with the assumption that you do not enjoy triple triad card gathering of course. If you do enjoy that and play TT anyway, you'll probably go:"Sure, all the better for me!". If you could do with only a single crafter up at 60 to gain access to every recipe you need (including the ability to actually make them HQ), okay, I might be able to see the point. You gotta have a battle class at 60 to gain full access to crafting facilities as well after all, so we could call it somewhat fair. But that's not the case.

[Ashkendor]

you need your weekly capped red scrips to get the soulstones as well.

You get your first 3 soulstones for free just for talking to some NPC's.

It's changing specializations that costs scrips.

[SnugglesD]

I don't think people are mad about the fact crafts are included in the relic quest, but are mad at the crazy markup most of the "greedy crafters" are selling them for on the English servers. None of the the components are crazy hard to get as you pointed out (unlike the Zodiacs which required Big Fish and desyned mats. The crafted items that required those cost around 100k during their heyday on most servers). Few would be complaining if they were selling for 50k to 100k on the MB, but as people are pointing out they are being sold for 10 to 20 times as much.

What those people fail to realize is that the "crafting illuminati" had to shell out millions of gil and dozens, if not hundreds, of hours just to get to the point that they can make the items. Leveling and gearing your crafts is like going to med school. It takes a shit ton of time and money to do it, but at the end you make bank. Are you going to tell me you expect a doctor to go through a minimum of 8 years of schooling and 6 figures of student loan debt to make minimum wage? Same principle. You're paying for the expertise, not just the item.