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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderbreak View Post
    Deleting what I originally posted here because I just realized you only have 5 level 60 Jobs and 0 Level 60 crafter and gatherer. You obviously can't even appreciate what some of us is going though.
    I had all my jobs (DoW/M) leveled in 1.0 (maybe not war/pld? can't remember), and again in 2.0 - and geared. Not to mention you don't even have all your jobs leveled? NOR do my current levels alter how fast anyone can obtain gear.

    And what does that even have to do with anything? You only need 1 job leveled and geared to know how long it takes. Heck, after your first job every other job is even faster!
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    Last edited by Pence; 01-10-2016 at 06:28 PM.

  2. #32
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    Actually you have free 180/185 you can obtain anytime you want. That is enough for dungeons and even void ark.
    I personnaly only need 1 week to up 60 and gear up to 200+. Thanks I have a lot of gear from raid. Yet I only use 3-4 jobs max so I rarely upgrade my gear on other jobs.
    Even if I really want to use it on any content (except savage raid) I have enough with i180 and often do a better job than people with i210 ... sad.
    Check my actual job, ast, only 1week to up and right after I lvl up 60 that was his gear. (-> Lodestone)

    You are not suppose to "master" and use every job maxed (gear). SE tend to make you use 1 or 2 maybe 3 max and other jobs with lower gear but still good enough for low content.

    Edit: btw, if you "scale" that's mean than people with all job 60 could get all the new memo gear to raid for 1 job super fast when it's realeased. Nope not a good idea anyway.
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    Last edited by Jeycht; 01-10-2016 at 06:43 PM.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    I had all my jobs (DoW/M) leveled in 1.0 (maybe not war/pld? can't remember), and again in 2.0 - and geared. Not to mention you don't even have all your jobs leveled? NOR do my current levels alter how fast anyone can obtain gear.

    And what does that even have to do with anything? You only need 1 job leveled and geared to know how long it takes. Heck, after your first job every other job is even faster!
    Between 2 alts (and I have more than 2) along I have 11 level 60 all decked out with minimum ilv183, 3 level 60 crafter and 1 level 60 gatherer, and recently I just bought a medium house.
    And on top of that I have a full time job which requires me to do over time sometimes. So unless you are in the same situation and a completionist you don't know what it's like.

    And no, you can't just level 1 job and know how long it'll take or what it's like, that's like run for 10 mins and say you know what a marathon feels like.

    And the gear conversation is over, I see your point on alternative gearing. Aside from weapons I agree armor and accessory are easy to obtain in a reliable fashion. If weapon like ex primal is to be considered then pugs will need to be put into equation, which can go your way or my way depends on your group quality and time availablilty.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeycht View Post
    Actually you have free 180/185 you can obtain anytime you want. That is enough for dungeons and even void ark.
    I personnaly only need 1 week to up 60 and gear up to 200+. Thanks I have a lot of gear from raid. Yet I only use 3-4 jobs max so I rarely upgrade my gear on other jobs.
    Even if I really want to use it on any content (except savage raid) I have enough with i180 and often do a better job than people with i210 ... sad.
    Check my actual job, ast, only 1week to up and right after I lvl up 60 that was his gear. (-> Lodestone)

    You are not suppose to "master" and use every job maxed (gear). SE tend to make you use 1 or 2 maybe 3 max and other jobs with lower gear but still good enough for low content.

    Edit: btw, if you "scale" that's mean than people with all job 60 could get all the new memo gear to raid for 1 job super fast when it's realeased. Nope not a good idea anyway.
    You didn't actually read what I wrote did you....how do you get 1 job geared superfast? And did SE come out and say we are not suppose to master every job? Or is that just your opinion imposed in SE's mouth?
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  5. #35
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    I don't get what's the problem anymore if the gear conversation is over. (ravana ex is easy in pug too, i190 weap. You can have 180 weap with memo anyway)
    Exp is fast enough.

    "You didn't actually read what I wrote did you....how do you get 1 job geared superfast? And did SE come out and say we are not suppose to master every job? Or is that just your opinion imposed in SE's mouth? "

    I have read it. But you didn't read mine I guess. I say that i180 is enough. i180 isn't already fast to obtain ? plus my raid gear that's fast for me. yet you (and I) don't need more anyway for none main job.
    SE said it, and they even do it with relic. I don't have the video when Yoshida talk about it but what's the matter ? Nobody can really master every job except with a lot of time(and yet. I couldn't master mage job even with enough time).
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    Last edited by Jeycht; 01-10-2016 at 07:01 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeycht View Post
    I don't get what's the problem anymore if the gear conversation is over. (ravana ex is easy in pug too, i190 weap. You can have 180 weap with memo anyway)
    Exp is fast enough.

    "You didn't actually read what I wrote did you....how do you get 1 job geared superfast? And did SE come out and say we are not suppose to master every job? Or is that just your opinion imposed in SE's mouth? "

    I have read it. But you didn't read mine I guess. I say that i180 is enough. i180 isn't already fast to obtain ? plus my raid gear that's fast for me. yet you (and I) don't need more anyway for none main job.
    You didn't actually read what I wrote did you....this topic is not about the content now. And I'm talking about your new gear for raid statement, it obviously contradicts what I purposed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderbreak View Post
    And no, you can't just level 1 job and know how long it'll take or what it's like, that's like run for 10 mins and say you know what a marathon feels like.
    When you run a marathon, you're going to know what to expect the second time, and third time and so on.

    You should quit trying to use analogies.
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    If that's not about the actual content. You talk about a content you don't even know.
    If they add 3 more jobs I'll do it the exact same way I actually do. Dungeons/farm memo (not weekly lock). easy.
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    Clean everything before any nerf is my goal. No matter the time needed to reach the last hp and beat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    When you run a marathon, you're going to know what to expect the second time, and third time and so on.

    You should quit trying to use analogies.
    Not when you have to run longer the next time genius.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeycht View Post
    If that's not about the actual content. You talk about a content you don't even know.
    If they add 3 more jobs I'll do it the exact same way I actually do. Dungeons/farm memo (not weekly lock). easy.
    I am talking about contents I already know, I already know they are adding more jobs. And I'm making a suggestion now so they don't have to be reactive later which is what they've been doing, even if they don't take this idea at least they'll start thinking about it. For god sakes go back and read I wrote all this stuff in my original post.
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    Last edited by thunderbreak; 01-10-2016 at 07:07 PM.

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