Experience/Currency Scaling with Job mastered

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You understand it's already stupid easy and stupid fast to get i190 gear and weapons, right....? i200 takes a little bit more work, sure, but it's not really as much effort as your making it out to be.

I'll try this one last time before giving up.

Say you pay 1000 dollars on your rent right now. Next month your landlord raises it to 1300, now you need metigate that extra 300 bucks. In another word you need to increase your income or cut your spending by 300 bucks or you won't make rent.

Then next month your landlord raises your rent to 1600 dollars......now you need to either increase your income or cut your spending by 600 bucks compare to when you only had to pay 1000 bucks.

You are saying, "Yeah coming up with 1000 bucks is easy stop bitching." But I'm not talking about 1000 bucks, I'm talking about that time when you'll eventually need to pay 1600 bucks, then when your landlord raise your rent to 2200 bucks. You'll be overwhelmed if you stay in your lifestyle revolving around 1000 dollars rent.

I really don't know how else I can explain this to you.

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You're complaining for the sake of complaining. It's super easy and super fast to gear, add 3 more into the mix? Still super easy and super fast.

[Morningstar1337]

Gonna play Devil's Advocate here. As much as I want to be able to gear and level alts faster, the thing is I don't think people are supposed to get all their classes to max iLevel, for 2 reasons:

• Skill: You have to know your Job and the mechanics associated with it. And have the skill to use it to it highest potential. You barely get enough experience (as in actual experience) from dungeons and FATE grinding could lead very inexperienced players that don't know better than spamming True Thrust, Blizzard (III), or Medica II. As of this moment, the max-ilevel gear is proof that players are skilled enough to clear the bleeding-edge raid, at the same time, any other content can be cleared with the 2nd or 3rd-highest tiers (In this case, i180-i200)
• Subscription: You know why MMOs are grindy? It's because they have to keep players busy until the patch/xpac is and to put up appearances so not to turn off new players (and help them thought content as well)

Also as it is, you could go to 60 fast enough considering that 4.0 isn't due for a year or 2

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Why.

The.

F.

Does people's brain just default on everything I wrote = THE CURRENT CONTENT IS TOO HARD. And what I'm suggesting is MAKE THIS EASIER!!

Does no one here understand grade 1 math? I want them to maintain the current grind time, not increase it.

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Since I last posted, I've got 7 i190 pieces. How will I ever survive if they add in 3 more jobs!

Update: 9.

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Can you be more specific on your methods and what exactly you got? Keep the sarcasm to yourself.

[Ashkendor]

Omni Job Master player

I mean, I learn how to play all my jobs that I have at 60 with a reasonable level of competency (i.e. I can run dungeons on them without being a complete detriment to the party, but wouldn't want to attempt endgame content) and I gear them out decently well (the lowest I have right now are SMN/BLM at i186; they didn't even get Hive weapons because I just don't enjoy them) but I hardly think of myself as an Omni Job Master Player because to me part of having mastered a job means that you can play it in the most recent endgame content. Anyone can go into a dungeon, mash buttons, and call themselves good. Actually being good and knowing the ins and outs of a class well enough to tackle difficult content on it is a completely different animal altogether.

You ever play with pug...... cuz my FC don't do any of these contents and I'm not leaving my FC. And as far as relic goes, yeah 200 is easy, eventually you'll have to upgrade it as patches drop and ilv increase? Is 210 relic easy? x 13 of them?

Part of mastering a job is knowing how to gear it correctly though, including getting the right secondaries for your particular job through combining raid drops and other equipment with your tome gear. The game isn't designed to let you deck out all of your classes in tome gear and have it be BiS. Actually, getting a full set of tome gear can often be pretty detrimental overall as it can overload you on stats you don't really need and leave you lacking in the ones that you do. So... yes, it basically does sound like you're asking for an "easy button" to gear every class to max item level. Item level isn't a measure of how good you are, though.

I honestly don't see any point to making the tome grind easier just because they're adding more classes. Before you reiterate that you're just asking for it to be kept the same length, that is making it easier because it lets you gear out more jobs in the same amount of time. If there's more jobs, of course it's going to take more time to gear them all out. o.O

The classes that I enjoy get all the love. Right now I have PLD at i208, WAR at i207, SCH at i206, and MNK at i204 through a combination of Eso gear, raid gear, Void Ark gear, and Thordan weapons. AST, WHM, and DRK are all i200+ because of sharing gear and some random Thordan weapon drops I've gotten while Greed farming. As for the relics, I completed one for my PLD and am about 1/3 of the way done on a second one for my SCH. It's really not all that difficult to gear multiple classes if you put your mind to it.

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Can you be more specific on your methods and what exactly you got? Keep the sarcasm to yourself.

4 i190 accessories.
2 i190 boots.
2 i190 belts.
1 i190 gloves.

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I mean, I learn how to play all my jobs that I have at 60 with a reasonable level of competency (i.e. I can run dungeons on them without being a complete detriment to the party, but wouldn't want to attempt endgame content) and I gear them out decently well (the lowest I have right now are SMN/BLM at i186; they didn't even get Hive weapons because I just don't enjoy them) but I hardly think of myself as an Omni Job Master Player because to me part of having mastered a job means that you can play it in the most recent endgame content. Anyone can go into a dungeon, mash buttons, and call themselves good. Actually being good and knowing the ins and outs of a class well enough to tackle difficult content on it is a completely different animal altogether.



Part of mastering a job is knowing how to gear it correctly though, including getting the right secondaries for your particular job through combining raid drops and other equipment with your tome gear. The game isn't designed to let you deck out all of your classes in tome gear and have it be BiS. Actually, getting a full set of tome gear can often be pretty detrimental overall as it can overload you on stats you don't really need and leave you lacking in the ones that you do. So... yes, it basically does sound like you're asking for an "easy button" to gear every class to max item level. Item level isn't a measure of how good you are, though.

I honestly don't see any point to making the tome grind easier just because they're adding more classes. Before you reiterate that you're just asking for it to be kept the same length, that is making it easier because it lets you gear out more jobs in the same amount of time. If there's more jobs, of course it's going to take more time to gear them all out. o.O

The classes that I enjoy get all the love. Right now I have PLD at i208, WAR at i207, SCH at i206, and MNK at i204 through a combination of Eso gear, raid gear, Void Ark gear, and Thordan weapons. AST, WHM, and DRK are all i200+ because of sharing gear and some random Thordan weapon drops I've gotten while Greed farming. As for the relics, I completed one for my PLD and am about 1/3 of the way done on a second one for my SCH. It's really not all that difficult to gear multiple classes if you put your mind to it.

Sorry I didn't mean more than having all jobs maxed out when I mean Omni Job Master, since the game use terms like Master of the Land or Master of the Hand.

As far your second statement, I've already given plenty of points to support. Agree or not is up to you, but they are realities for many players who doesn't have enough time to play and do other things in life as it is. Besides, if you read what I suggested players still have to pay their due with 2 jobs they level/gear, I'm not asking for a even out nerf, and I didn't even give a deduction value, that may change the whole context.

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4 i190 accessories.
2 i190 boots.
2 i190 belts.
1 i190 gloves.

Deleting what I originally posted here because I just realized you only have 5 level 60 Jobs and 0 Level 60 crafter and gatherer. You obviously can't even appreciate what some of us is going though.