Strength Tanks

[Ironos]

It still kinda is. But it makes me wonder how the devs tested alex savage originally. Did their tanks wear 190 alex nm fending accessories? 150 crafted accessories melded with str? A mix of vit and str alex 190 accessories? Did they have the whm/ast solo heal with a sch dps'ing? Just makes me curious.

I remember a while back, when they were previewing 3.1, there was a DRK with some ~21k health in a dev screenshot and everyone was like "Oh my god, devs use Fending? Git gud." I still think the devs intended on tanks using fending primarily, only using slaying to bridge the dps gap if the need arose. I don't think they anticipated people completely phasing out Fending and treating vit like a plague.

[whiskeybravo]

I remember a while back, when they were previewing 3.1, there was a DRK with some ~21k health in a dev screenshot and everyone was like "Oh my god, devs use Fending? Git gud." I still think the devs intended on tanks using fending primarily, only using slaying to bridge the dps gap if the need arose. I don't think they anticipated people completely phasing out Fending and treating vit like a plague.

Ah. So the real reason tanks wear str and healers dps is to carry the dps. If SE could do it in fending then we could to, right? :P

[Ironos]

Ah. So the real reason tanks wear str and healers dps is to carry the dps. If SE could do it in fending then we could to, right? :P

Ahaha, I'm making no so such claims. I think that's what SE thinks it's like, and they also thought the current tier of Savage was overtuned a bit, supporting that thought. We also don't really know what SE's intended ilvl for Savage was, because I've seen some people saying anything over ilvl ~195 is overgearing it. I don't really know, because I haven't bothered to do anything past A1S.

[bounddreamer]

Tanking Alex for precision items and war panther runs yesterday, I met another DRK in full vit. She asked when the swap happens. I said in full fending, shouldn't need a swap. She says okay and turns Grit off after having pulled most of the trash. We get to Living Liquid and it turns out she wants me to MT after having asked when to swap. ...what's the point of being OT if you're in full fending? -_- I was ready to dps but she said she was more comfortable dpsing as OT.

[AlexiIvaniskavich]

Tanking Alex for precision items and war panther runs yesterday, I met another DRK in full vit. She asked when the swap happens. I said in full fending, shouldn't need a swap. She says okay and turns Grit off after having pulled most of the trash. We get to Living Liquid and it turns out she wants me to MT after having asked when to swap. ...what's the point of being OT if you're in full fending? -_- I was ready to dps but she said she was more comfortable dpsing as OT.

People still swap? I thought this died in normal mode at around i195 left side..... regardless of right side life choices

[Ironos]

People still swap? I thought this died in normal mode at around i195 left side..... regardless of right side life choices

Some people will try to...and when you're a PLD and they're a WAR trying to steal threat, there's not much you can do. So I let them have it and went SwO to finish the fight.

[whiskeybravo]

Haha, I was still swapping in my runs.. It's been like 5 months since I went in normal, wtf do you expect xD

It was like going back to do t1 and everyone wanted to sac pull, wait, what's a sac pull? We never sac pulled before DF echo and nerfs lol

[FunkyBunch]

Please stop, there is no sane reason why a tank should slot points into strength instead of vitality. You having less or the same hp as a dps is not an effective tank build because a dead tank does zero dps.

If you say that you hold hate better then you must never flash or taunt , seriously if you do your threat generation rotation properly you will hold hate and once again when you die due to your low hp your threat generation goes to zero.

It is not a healers responsibility to spend an insane amount of time and mana keeping you alive when you choose not to talent properly, it's like healing a dps that thinks he is a tank.

In conclusion is you want to play a dps class then roll one otherwise learn to play as the role you selected which means you are there to take damage not cause massive damage to mobs and die in the process.

Sounds like a butt hurt bad healer...

[Jamillion]

Sounds like a butt hurt bad healer...

Nah, OP was just a scrubby troll, no meaningful response from him since the start of the thread

[Starbirth]

I remember a while back, when they were previewing 3.1, there was a DRK with some ~21k health in a dev screenshot and everyone was like "Oh my god, devs use Fending? Git gud." I still think the devs intended on tanks using fending primarily, only using slaying to bridge the dps gap if the need arose. I don't think they anticipated people completely phasing out Fending and treating vit like a plague.

I find most devs that test out their game think like devs when they should think like a player. This is why a large majority of imbalances exist when a game or patch launches.