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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    What really gets me is that the Tower where the Warring Triad are has 2 wings and one side is emanating "aether particles" similar to what's Antithesis/ Tiamat's prison and also in the Pappus Tree. I wonder if there's a connection there?
    I think it's going to have something to do with the Antithesis. There's a transportation node just south of there near the Pappus Tree that says something to the effect of "Access denied, only senior military or research personnel may enter the facility."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harz View Post
    I think it's going to have something to do with the Antithesis. There's a transportation node just south of there near the Pappus Tree that says something to the effect of "Access denied, only senior military or research personnel may enter the facility."
    Interesting... If that node acts as the entrance to the dungeon, given the proximity to Tiamat and the "oppression" translation... I wonder if we might be freeing Tiamat? Yoshida mentioned not wanting MSQ progress to be locked behind Primals anymore, so I'd assume Sephirot is not part of the MSQ, more so when this is meant to be building up to the climax of the Dragonsong War, Sephirot shouldn't really have much to do with that, but Tiamat? She should absolutely be involved.

    There is perhaps the small problem of Tiamat being part of the map though... I guess she could copy Middy; Leave behind a dead husk and form a new body... Guess Middy did say she could free herself as well, which would beg the question why we'd need a dungeon for it...
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    Interesting... If that node acts as the entrance to the dungeon, given the proximity to Tiamat and the "oppression" translation... I wonder if we might be freeing Tiamat? Yoshida mentioned not wanting MSQ progress to be locked behind Primals anymore, so I'd assume Sephirot is not part of the MSQ, more so when this is meant to be building up to the climax of the Dragonsong War, Sephirot shouldn't really have much to do with that, but Tiamat? She should absolutely be involved.

    There is perhaps the small problem of Tiamat being part of the map though... I guess she could copy Middy; Leave behind a dead husk and form a new body... Guess Middy did say she could free herself as well, which would beg the question why we'd need a dungeon for it...
    Tiamat being part of the map shouldn't be a huge issue, either because of what you said or because they could just do what they did and are going to continue to do with Alexander rising out of the lake.
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    Thinking about it, it's probably more problematic that Tiamat is part of the Sightseeing Log, rather than part of the map...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    Thinking about it, it's probably more problematic that Tiamat is part of the Sightseeing Log, rather than part of the map...
    Tiamat and the Gration. Either heaven and earth will need to move later to keep the log consistent (or hopefully they programmed in an alternate text function in advance), or we can assume not much is going to happen with either. EVER.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    Tiamat and the Gration. Either heaven and earth will need to move later to keep the log consistent (or hopefully they programmed in an alternate text function in advance), or we can assume not much is going to happen with either. EVER.
    Well, they could move to do something, then move back... Tiamat especially, I think she's serious about sitting there until the end of time, but it's entirely possible we could have her go big-sis aggro on Nidhogg before returning there...

    The Gration is probably stuck there though, given the description... Not sure I care though, since I figured it would only ever be a dungeon... Would it even do anything if it was used again? The brief action we saw from it indicated that it's Star Wars levels of incompetent... I dare count the shots it fired, but I'm pretty confident it only had a 1% accuracy rating, and most of those hits were on a stationary Primal...
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    Ipsen's Castle from FFIX is what came to mind when I see AntiTower.



    For those who never played FF9, there's a dungeon late in the game called Ipsen's Castle and it's a huge upside-down castle. In this zone, everything is reversed (climb up poles instead of slide down, strong weapons deal weak damage and low level weapons deal high damage).


    Could also resemble the FFIX desert palace which has a room with a Warring Triad homage puzzle.

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    My speculation is that it's this place



    SE's been dangling this carrot on a stick in front of us since 3.0 launched and we still don't know what it is. It has spiral staircases, wood-plank bridges, roots connecting all the islands that are flat and look like they can be traversed...it has way too much detail put into it to just be "nothing."
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    the fact, that it isn't anywhere to be found on the current maps means that it's either part of an existing thing (like the that large spike like thing on the bottom of the flagship) or we will be teleported to it, cause it isn't accessable from the open world (maybe what's under silvertear lake, or maybe the moon?! After all we have the WoL and the WoD, anti-light means darkness, maybe we go to "bizzaro world")
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkbeaumont View Post
    (maybe what's under silvertear lake, or maybe the moon?! After all we have the WoL and the WoD, anti-light means darkness, maybe we go to "bizzaro world")
    I think it's a bit early in the main storyline for that. I can't imagine having a pretty big event like "The Triad is awakening" and them showing us what Middy was hiding in the same patch. SE likes to keep their big events for different patches.
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