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    Ok, lets take a ride on the wild head cannin train for a stop.

    If the Anti-Tower is Eureka, and below the Labyrinth of Ancients somewhere in the chasem, is it possible it was a hanger for Anti Primal weapons simmilar to Ultima and Omega? or at least an R&D area that led to Ultima and Omega?
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    From the Vantage of the "Last Remnant" in Azys Lla, I can see 2 tower-like structures: The one in where Castrum Solus and the one in the center of the Warring Triad statues.

    What really gets me is that the Tower where the Warring Triad are has 2 wings and one side is emanating "aether particles" similar to what's Antithesis/ Tiamat's prison and also in the Pappus Tree. I wonder if there's a connection there?

    Speaking of "Last Remnant" I am curious as to why this small island was made worthy enough to pluck from the ground and levitate? Could this be related to the Remnants of Sephirot?

    Time will tell, I guess
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    Speaking of "Last Remnant" I am curious as to why this small island was made worthy enough to pluck from the ground and levitate? Could this be related to the Remnants of Sephirot?
    I think it is a reference to the game Last Remnant (we also got haircuts from that game, just saying).

    As for what exactly it is here... I kind of figured it was the "last remnant" of a floating island. Lets say the Zeta Quadrant used to stand there, but now the only remnant is what we see.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    Ok, lets take a ride on the wild head cannin train for a stop.

    If the Anti-Tower is Eureka, and below the Labyrinth of Ancients somewhere in the chasem, is it possible it was a hanger for Anti Primal weapons simmilar to Ultima and Omega? or at least an R&D area that led to Ultima and Omega?
    Eureka was historically where the ultimate weapons were stored in Final Fantasy III, so a favorite theory of mine was always that in Eorzea, it was where the Allag stored their Ultima Weapons. I think Azys Lla and Seal Rock are where much of Allagan R&D went on, though.
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    Since someone mentioned an Antitower being similar to antibiotic, or a weapon meant to destroy a tower, I considered something similar.

    My thought was that the Antitower was the tower meant to be "Anti" to the Triad, so there would be 3 Antitowers, one for each. What happens when the WoL goes somewhere with Allagan tech? Usually things are destroyed. What happens when our accidentally-destructive WoL goes into an already-waning tower sealing one of the Triad?

    Yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    What really gets me is that the Tower where the Warring Triad are has 2 wings and one side is emanating "aether particles" similar to what's Antithesis/ Tiamat's prison and also in the Pappus Tree. I wonder if there's a connection there?
    I think it's going to have something to do with the Antithesis. There's a transportation node just south of there near the Pappus Tree that says something to the effect of "Access denied, only senior military or research personnel may enter the facility."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harz View Post
    I think it's going to have something to do with the Antithesis. There's a transportation node just south of there near the Pappus Tree that says something to the effect of "Access denied, only senior military or research personnel may enter the facility."
    Interesting... If that node acts as the entrance to the dungeon, given the proximity to Tiamat and the "oppression" translation... I wonder if we might be freeing Tiamat? Yoshida mentioned not wanting MSQ progress to be locked behind Primals anymore, so I'd assume Sephirot is not part of the MSQ, more so when this is meant to be building up to the climax of the Dragonsong War, Sephirot shouldn't really have much to do with that, but Tiamat? She should absolutely be involved.

    There is perhaps the small problem of Tiamat being part of the map though... I guess she could copy Middy; Leave behind a dead husk and form a new body... Guess Middy did say she could free herself as well, which would beg the question why we'd need a dungeon for it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    Interesting... If that node acts as the entrance to the dungeon, given the proximity to Tiamat and the "oppression" translation... I wonder if we might be freeing Tiamat? Yoshida mentioned not wanting MSQ progress to be locked behind Primals anymore, so I'd assume Sephirot is not part of the MSQ, more so when this is meant to be building up to the climax of the Dragonsong War, Sephirot shouldn't really have much to do with that, but Tiamat? She should absolutely be involved.

    There is perhaps the small problem of Tiamat being part of the map though... I guess she could copy Middy; Leave behind a dead husk and form a new body... Guess Middy did say she could free herself as well, which would beg the question why we'd need a dungeon for it...
    Tiamat being part of the map shouldn't be a huge issue, either because of what you said or because they could just do what they did and are going to continue to do with Alexander rising out of the lake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harz View Post
    I think it's going to have something to do with the Antithesis. There's a transportation node just south of there near the Pappus Tree that says something to the effect of "Access denied, only senior military or research personnel may enter the facility."
    If I remember correctly, during the main scenario it was actually mentioned that transporter is meant to provide access to the Flagship, but because of the security lock it forced the player to find another way there (thus leading to the meeting with Tiamat and then the player riding Middy directly there - one may think why we didn't just ride a mount there in the first place and save us all that bother, but the final aether current was gained at that point ). So yeah, I don't see it being used for anything other than just flavour text for the setting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    My speculation is that it's this place



    SE's been dangling this carrot on a stick in front of us since 3.0 launched and we still don't know what it is. It has spiral staircases, wood-plank bridges, roots connecting all the islands that are flat and look like they can be traversed...it has way too much detail put into it to just be "nothing."
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that actually Neverreap? It would make sense naturally, it fits the design for one. So yeah, I'm pretty sure that is just Neverreap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that actually Neverreap? It would make sense naturally, it fits the design for one. So yeah, I'm pretty sure that is just Neverreap.
    Neverreap is visible floating off the north edge of the Sea of Clouds map, actually. The one off the south edge a completely different unexplored Vanu area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that actually Neverreap? It would make sense naturally, it fits the design for one. So yeah, I'm pretty sure that is just Neverreap.
    Nope, Neverreap is way out north of the Sea of Clouds.

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