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    Zumi Kasumi
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    800 alex isn't the only way to do relic and even that is more then what is required due to the fact you are getting law. You can casually do hunts for like a month and finish given how much seals, poetics and law they give.
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    800 alex isn't the only way to do relic and even that is more then what is required due to the fact you are getting law. You can casually do hunts for like a month and finish given how much seals, poetics and law they give.
    This is still devoting an entire month to one task. Something that will sour us to running certain content again, or simply not having the time due to other objectives. Do you know we will be in mid late February by the time 2 months rolls around, and by then the ilevel will be raised, making our weapons trash to be replaced as soon as possible. So long as they keep releasing the current i lvl version of the relic in the middle of the catch up path, its limited usability will comtinue to be a problem, as players will burn out on having to grind df all the time.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 12-30-2015 at 12:59 PM.

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    Trpimir Ratyasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    800 alex isn't the only way to do relic and even that is more then what is required due to the fact you are getting law. You can casually do hunts for like a month and finish given how much seals, poetics and law they give.
    No, you don't need 800 Gordian section runs because you do get 20 (+50, I think, for first time bonuses) per run, so it comes out to something like 680 runs, tops.

    Either way, while the variety of ways to get the items is a definite improvement over certain Relic steps, the sheer amount of tokens needed comes across as staggering. 80 is a relatively big number, seeing as it takes at least a couple hours to run all the Daily Roulettes and get enough for two or three items. For the other methods, not everybody likes doing them (or even can do some of them). Personally, I don't like hunts; I was quite a fan of hunting rare mobs in WoW that dropped special mounts (I miss my Time-Lost Proto-Drake...), but here I find it boring and am not a particularly social player. Not everyone can do the required 2.x Beast Tribe quests (I was only interested by the Kobold and Ixal, the latter of which don't let you get the items), and those would probably take about an hour to do all of them and only provide payout every 4.3 days (the Vanu Vanu dailies are worse, providing payout only every 6 days). Not everybody can get treasure maps, and even then there's only a small chance of getting one of the two items you can from them. 10 Gordias section runs take between 1.5 and 2 hours.

    You need to do this eighty times over.

    And that's still not including the HQ Crafted Items, which are impossible for non-gatherers or non-crafters to obtain at anything resembling a price they can afford. Yes, even if you buy NQ components off the Market Board and seek out someone to make them for you (which defeats the purpose of solo play). I'm pretty fortunate that I can get many of the components myself except the ones from the Diadem and have a small fortune to help with those, but most casual / solo players (the people the Anima Weapons are targeted at) aren't (my brother just about bankrupt himself buying a Sanuwa mount).
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