Thread: The Current Status of FFXIV Patch 3.1 and How to Address it Moving Forward

Originally Posted by SchalaZeal

You want non-locked rooms where we can bring the boss around corridors?

You want completely random mechanics?

Randomized boss?

What do you want? How would you do it?

Having an actual environment like they did with coil, using an arena that becomes dynamic with the fight, or a boss that requires the arena to be catered to it (like a long rectangular one for demon wall)

I had a thought last night, I don't recall seeing anyone bring it up here but I apologize if I missed it.

One thing I had not considered, even though I do believe the messed up pretty bad with the timing of the relic release, this raid patch we did a have a tome weapon that did not require A2S drop to obtain. I think this probably had some impact on their planning of the relic release. Whether it was right or wrong to withhold the relic quests for this long we can debate about. But I for one was pretty pleased with that aspect, and if you look at it like that it does sort of make sense why it would've been problematic had they released relics earlier. And that is the pace at which they want us to gear up (or plan for us to, I guess). If we had relic weapon at 200 at the same time, that's 990 more tomes we would've had to spend on gear and people would've geared faster and that's kinda the opposite of what they want, to make sure the content has a certain shelf life at least.

I still think the best plan would have been release 170 with expansion, update to 190 with alex savage release, 200 with void ark (maybe withhold the upgrade items until the next patch), and then 210 on the last leg before next raid patch (VA upgrade items here), with savage weapons being 215. This ensures they remain slightly behind raid weapons and keeps that content relative.

But I just wanted to look at it from a different perspective, they did do at least one good thing by not locking the weapon behind 2nd turn, I'm sure a lot of groups were able to benefit with early clears because of it.

Advertised: Relic quest that would be different than earlier relic quests, less grindy, actually fun.
What we got: Even grindier quest that is not fun at any point.

What was actually advertised: Less RNG (ie Zodiac Braves), actually seeing progression, many methods of progress.

What we got: Exactly that.

I don't consider grinding upon hours of the same content and mindlessly repeating the process over days throughout either fun nor challenging or rewarding

Then don't, I've done all of 8 Alex NM 1 runs, to help a friend. I'll do 2 more just to get rid of the precision bolt, and call it done. I do beastmen and roulettes mainly. Which are pretty fast and since it's only once a day, not too repetitive.

Originally Posted by SchalaZeal

I do beastmen and roulettes mainly. Which are pretty fast and since it's only once a day, not too repetitive.

It's more on a meta example, when they said that we'd get new content. I expected Anima quests to use existing content as their means to progress. Not old 2.x content that doesn't offer any player interaction (or otherwise needs more players participating, when other areas like Ct need this more desperately).

It leaves a bad taste in my mouth that they would reuse old content (and it's not even, "taking the concept and giving it a new paint") and consider it as passable for something that's supposed to be new content. Especially in context of them having to delay the questline for so long because it wasn't finished or ready. The entirty of step 2 feels like fluff because the 2.x dungeons can be done unsynced (and you can change your weapon), and doesn't have you touching any 3.x primals or level 60 content (and neither does step 3, outside of tomestome rewards for Ex primals)