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[Kaurie]

Indeed, that was the purposeful design of the original relic chain, the point being it was a long grind to allow players not running end-game to have an avenue open to them to obtain a 'good' weapon .

I thought the original relic chain required you to do Bowl of Embers, The Howling Eye and The Navel (Hard) where the Navel (Hard) was actually pretty tough in the gear level of the time.

[Kosmos992k]

I thought the original relic chain required you to do Bowl of Embers, The Howling Eye and The Navel (Hard) where the Navel (Hard) was actually pretty tough in the gear level of the time.

You're right I should have been more specific I was referring to the original Relic upgrade from Zenith, not the acquisition of the relic, and upgrade to Zenith. My apologies for not being clear. The original Zodiak upgrade path was designed to be a grind, as I said. That was what I was referring to. I think it matches the current relic upgrade path since the final form of the original Relic jumps a few steps and dovetails right in.