to those japanese speakers...

[NoahArks]

I have to agree with this, especially after how people complained in 2.0 about the atmas. That's the one part that baffles me. I'd argue that atmas were the most complained about part of relic upgrades, and they gave us the same thing all over again. From what I'm seeing from friends, nobody takes as much issue with farming tomes, beastcoins, alex, etc. since you can actively see your progression. Personally, I like doing things knowing I'm getting somewhere. I think this is perhaps the perspective of most people.

The only step I wouldn't mind about the relics are the dungeon runs. The grinding for atma, beast tokens esos, craft items etc... etc.. is putting me off.

[Dyvid]

The only step I wouldn't mind about the relics are the dungeon runs. The grinding for atma, beast tokens esos, craft items etc... etc.. is putting me off.

Actually those are a necessary evil. Before hardy anyone did FATEs in the new area so level up was a chore between roulette. Now people can grind out FATE for better xp rather than bot in N.Than. But with so many people disliking FATE maybe it's time for SE to reexamine them to find a way to make them more epic and fun.

[AzureFlare]

Actually those are a necessary evil. Before hardy anyone did FATEs in the new area so level up was a chore between roulette. Now people can grind out FATE for better xp rather than bot in N.Than. But with so many people disliking FATE maybe it's time for SE to reexamine them to find a way to make them more epic and fun.

They could also have done dungeons and laugh at the FATE plebs, to be honest. The amount of XP dungeons drop now is insane, especially combined with FC and food buffs. I'd wager enough to compensate for the potentially long queues some roles have.