Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
Then you have a selective memory. They were upgraded to level 99+ alongside the Empyrean weapons keeping them more than relevant, and the grind was made a lot easier by that time.

The Empyrean 'grind' also relied heavily on fighting mob X during weather Y in area Z, which could mean waiting for hours, even days, for the right combination to show up. This wasn't just one or two Empyrean weapons either, this is on a large number of them. So the grind could be just as annoying, if not more so, than the relic grind.

The relic grind was made a LOT easier when Dynamis became an open zone, and the upgrades used a similar system. It was possible to gain a relic in months, not years, once that update arrived.

But all of this is utterly irrelevant. We're talking about FFXIV. The relics suck. End of story. They're not special, and they NEED to be to justify the effort you put into them. What's the use in a level 210 weapon? I could upgrade my Antiquated sword and get that with a fraction of the effort!
I think the relic was for people who can't upgrade their Antiquated swords...