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    Fine if we're going to further nitpick about what I mean, alright then I'll bite. Let me elaborate.
    I find it hilariously sad for the people who are picking on the picture itself for 'long legs, long torso, it looks silly' instead of focusing on the designs itself. Worrying about why there are legs longer than they ought to be is ridiculously trite.

    There's something to be said about style, and if they're expecting exact replicas of the models they wouldn't need Yoshida to draw anything for them at all, they'd just arrange models wearing the armour for the magazine cover. So why don't they? For the style itself.
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    Yeah that ^
    Cool signature, btw!
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    Quote Originally Posted by User201109011315 View Post
    I agree.

    Class should reflect weapon.

    They've added a new weapon here (bowharp lol), so shouldn't that be a new class? I guess the fact that it is half bow is supposed to be enough to make it compatible with the armory system, but it just looks like they were desperate to get Bard into the game as quickly as possible.
    which I don't understand. Because they can't do guns yet, guns are a class onto themselves. They could have done crossbows, or something to do with archery. To throw bard in like that is silly, but I have to admit the bow harp is kind neat looking. Still depressing to see the term bard tacked onto Archer though. D:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Yeah that ^
    Cool signature, btw!
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  3. #293
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    I know the perfect theme song for this Bow/Harp weapon:


    Strumming my pain with his fingers
    Singing my life with his words
    Killing me softly with his song~


    youtu.be/7YAEWrnOtrY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscillate_Wildly View Post
    which I don't understand. Because they can't do guns yet, guns are a class onto themselves. They could have done crossbows, or something to do with archery. To throw bard in like that is silly, but I have to admit the bow harp is kind neat looking. Still depressing to see the term bard tacked onto Archer though. D:
    I am of the opinion that jobs and weapons should be separate things altogether. There is a dichotomy between role-choice and weapon/ability choice. But SE, not recognising this, has chosen to blend both together in a nonsensical way.

    It's difficult to get your head around archer becoming bard. They had to reinvent the entire weaponry to make it work because the armory system didn't allow it. And that's pretty damning evidence that Jobs shouldn't be tied to weapon and also further proves that bard should have been a class unto itself (since they had to make a new weapon for it anyway).

    New weapon = new class with new set of abilities.

    The whole thing is a mess now. Ahahah.
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    Bard was originally going to be a class on itself (you can check my Advanced Jobs post to see all the original classes save for the Scythe Class which I had to make up for Dark Knight job).

    Which is why I am a little disappointed that Archer is taking over the job, while like many are saying the weapon looks interesting, I'd rather see Archer turn into Ranger or Sniper or something else that would fit the weapon type. Hell we don't see Lancer turning into the White Mage, and Conjurer turning into a Viking now do we?
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    I'm sure there's an amusing little story we'll get to see about how a group of Archers formed a band and became awesome as a result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by User201109011315 View Post
    I agree.

    Class should reflect weapon.

    They've added a new weapon here (bowharp lol), so shouldn't that be a new class? I guess the fact that it is half bow is supposed to be enough to make it compatible with the armory system, but it just looks like they were desperate to get Bard into the game as quickly as possible.
    There's no indication it's not just a bow. People are jumping to this conclusion that there's a harp attached to it because musical classes exist within Final Fantasy, and a part of this bow kind of looks like it could be some sort of stringed instrument, maybe sorta. It could just be a bow lol.

    IMO, it looks much more like some kind of quiver attached to the bow than a harp, like so: https://7chan.org/w/src/129074693451.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travesty View Post
    There's no indication it's not just a bow. People are jumping to this conclusion that there's a harp attached to it because musical classes exist within Final Fantasy, and a part of this bow kind of looks like it could be some sort of stringed instrument, maybe sorta. It could just be a bow lol.

    IMO, it looks much more like some kind of quiver attached to the bow than a harp, like so: https://7chan.org/w/src/129074693451.jpg
    The vertical rods are too short to be arrows. The draw pull must be horrible, if that were to be the case...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilvertearRen View Post
    The vertical rods are too short to be arrows. The draw pull must be horrible, if that were to be the case...
    Yeah, I thought the same thing about the size of the rods. Then I looked at the WHM's legs and realized perspective is not perfect in this picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travesty View Post
    Yeah, I thought the same thing about the size of the rods. Then I looked at the WHM's legs and realized perspective is not perfect in this picture.
    Look at the archer's arrow that's currently nocked. Then compare it. The "rods" in the upper half of the bow are LESS than half the length of the arrow. That makes no sense.
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