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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscillate_Wildly View Post
    Reading everyone nit pick about concept artwork is sad.

    Kind hoped Bard wouldn't show up yet or would have shown up as a class all its own. but alas..... Apparently if you can use a bow you can also play music? Hopefully though it won't be the last music based playing style to show up. I'd like to see something akin to a bard, but perhaps with songs and pipes. ): But not as a job...

    Jobs taking over kind kills it, idk. Personal opinion, inb4 shutupyou'rewrong, I'll miss leveling something from the ground up if this is what it's going to be like forever. Besides. Bard and archer? Can't wait to see how this will all go down. <_>
    I agree.

    Class should reflect weapon.

    They've added a new weapon here (bowharp lol), so shouldn't that be a new class? I guess the fact that it is half bow is supposed to be enough to make it compatible with the armory system, but it just looks like they were desperate to get Bard into the game as quickly as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by User201109011315 View Post
    I agree.

    Class should reflect weapon.

    They've added a new weapon here (bowharp lol), so shouldn't that be a new class? I guess the fact that it is half bow is supposed to be enough to make it compatible with the armory system, but it just looks like they were desperate to get Bard into the game as quickly as possible.
    which I don't understand. Because they can't do guns yet, guns are a class onto themselves. They could have done crossbows, or something to do with archery. To throw bard in like that is silly, but I have to admit the bow harp is kind neat looking. Still depressing to see the term bard tacked onto Archer though. D:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscillate_Wildly View Post
    which I don't understand. Because they can't do guns yet, guns are a class onto themselves. They could have done crossbows, or something to do with archery. To throw bard in like that is silly, but I have to admit the bow harp is kind neat looking. Still depressing to see the term bard tacked onto Archer though. D:
    I am of the opinion that jobs and weapons should be separate things altogether. There is a dichotomy between role-choice and weapon/ability choice. But SE, not recognising this, has chosen to blend both together in a nonsensical way.

    It's difficult to get your head around archer becoming bard. They had to reinvent the entire weaponry to make it work because the armory system didn't allow it. And that's pretty damning evidence that Jobs shouldn't be tied to weapon and also further proves that bard should have been a class unto itself (since they had to make a new weapon for it anyway).

    New weapon = new class with new set of abilities.

    The whole thing is a mess now. Ahahah.
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    I'm sure there's an amusing little story we'll get to see about how a group of Archers formed a band and became awesome as a result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by User201109011315 View Post
    I agree.

    Class should reflect weapon.

    They've added a new weapon here (bowharp lol), so shouldn't that be a new class? I guess the fact that it is half bow is supposed to be enough to make it compatible with the armory system, but it just looks like they were desperate to get Bard into the game as quickly as possible.
    There's no indication it's not just a bow. People are jumping to this conclusion that there's a harp attached to it because musical classes exist within Final Fantasy, and a part of this bow kind of looks like it could be some sort of stringed instrument, maybe sorta. It could just be a bow lol.

    IMO, it looks much more like some kind of quiver attached to the bow than a harp, like so: https://7chan.org/w/src/129074693451.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travesty View Post
    There's no indication it's not just a bow. People are jumping to this conclusion that there's a harp attached to it because musical classes exist within Final Fantasy, and a part of this bow kind of looks like it could be some sort of stringed instrument, maybe sorta. It could just be a bow lol.

    IMO, it looks much more like some kind of quiver attached to the bow than a harp, like so: https://7chan.org/w/src/129074693451.jpg
    The vertical rods are too short to be arrows. The draw pull must be horrible, if that were to be the case...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilvertearRen View Post
    The vertical rods are too short to be arrows. The draw pull must be horrible, if that were to be the case...
    Yeah, I thought the same thing about the size of the rods. Then I looked at the WHM's legs and realized perspective is not perfect in this picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travesty View Post
    Yeah, I thought the same thing about the size of the rods. Then I looked at the WHM's legs and realized perspective is not perfect in this picture.
    Look at the archer's arrow that's currently nocked. Then compare it. The "rods" in the upper half of the bow are LESS than half the length of the arrow. That makes no sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilvertearRen View Post
    Look at the archer's arrow that's currently nocked. Then compare it. The "rods" in the upper half of the bow are LESS than half the length of the arrow. That makes no sense.
    I could make an argument in the same vein that the rods are way to thick to be "strings" for any kind of stringed instrument, as they're just as thick as the arrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilvertearRen View Post
    Look at the archer's arrow that's currently nocked. Then compare it. The "rods" in the upper half of the bow are LESS than half the length of the arrow. That makes no sense.
    If you look at the arrow you can see that is nocked crooked. I don't think it's possible to shoot an arrow like that...
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