you guys went overboard with this new relic

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I don't know how anybody can defend these methods when SE could easily give us ways that are at least some what entertaining. Nobody is asking for things to be handed to them.

We just want them to stop catering to the lowest common denomjnator.

It's a RELIC WEAPON. It should be obtained by completing feats of strength. Slaying epic monsters. Completing an epic quest. Exploring me elands.

Not killing endless a mounts of low level trash

THIS IS WHY WE PLAY RPG GAMES

Most RPGs have grind fests for their equivalent "super" weapon. In FFVII, you had to get a Gold Chocobo to find Knights of the Round. FFX forced you to grind Bliztball and FFXII and the insane 50 million HP boss. The anima weapons aren't meant to be gotten quickly, but slowly over the course of a month or two.

[Arrius]

The anima weapons aren't meant to be gotten quickly, but slowly over the course of a month or two.

I do doubt, except for the most dedicated ones, that you can acquire the i200 step your relic weapon within a month or two. Alone the tours into Alex will suck you dry, and we aren't even talking about the Beast Tribe Tokens, Tomes and HQ items.
That's too much, even for a Relic Quest STEP.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I do doubt, except for the most dedicated ones, that you can acquire the i200 step your relic weapon within a month or two. Alone the tours into Alex will suck you dry, and we aren't even talking about the Beast Tribe Tokens, Tomes and HQ items.
That's too much, even for a Relic Quest STEP.

If you just did Alex runs, it amounts to twenty a day over a month (620/30). Consider you can supplement in Hunts, Beast Tribe Dailies and etc. It isn't quite so grueling. The estimate I've heard on reddit and streams is 24 days.

[Zazamoda]

If you just did Alex runs, it amounts to twenty a day over a month (620/30). Consider you can supplement in Hunts, Beast Tribe Dailies and etc. It isn't quite so grueling. The estimate I've heard on reddit and streams is 24 days.

Those Alex runs would take about five hours per day, every day (assuming 15 minutes each, disregarding queue time). That's a lot of playtime, and that's doing NOTHING else in that five hours. Just nonstop Alex, with what is likely all or most of your free time, for a month. That seems quite grueling to me.

[Arrius]

If you just did Alex runs, it amounts to twenty a day over a month (620/30). Consider you can supplement in Hunts, Beast Tribe Dailies and etc. It isn't quite so grueling. The estimate I've heard on reddit and streams is 24 days.

20 runs a day results in at least 3 hours of playtime exclusively for that, give or take an hour depending on your role within the DF queue. Per day. For at least a month. Alone for Alexander.

Even now leveling all my DoW/M/L/H classes sounds for me more motivating than getting a step of my relic done.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

20 runs a day results in at least 3 hours of playtime exclusively for that, give or take an hour depending on your role within the DF queue. Per day. For at least a month. Alone for Alexander.

Even now leveling all my DoW/M/L/H classes sounds for me more motivating than getting a step of my relic done.

Yes, if you only do Alex Normal daily. You won't need nearly that many if you do hunts, dailies and etc.

[Arrius]

Yes, if you only do Alex Normal daily. You won't need nearly that many if you do hunts, dailies and etc.

Which still is a major time sink if you plan to stay on being one of the first to upgrade to i200 and in general, no matter how you spin it.
And I really do not plan to do something like that over the course of the holidays to come.

That Relic is no more a alternative weapon for the non-raider community, it just holds as a token of prestige now. For glamour. Bragging rights.
I get the same iLevel in two weeks of Eso capping and additional 90 from the third one.

[Hix]

There is already an epic boss fighting, non grindy way to get a 210 weapon. Do that instead of relic if you don't like grinding.

[SendohJin]

I get the same iLevel in two weeks of Eso capping and additional 90 from the third one.

that's i200, the full quest gives you i210.

[Nihility]

If you just did Alex runs, it amounts to twenty a day over a month (620/30). Consider you can supplement in Hunts, Beast Tribe Dailies and etc. It isn't quite so grueling. The estimate I've heard on reddit and streams is 24 days.

for a weapon that is slightly better than a thordan one you can get in ~2 hours and may or may not be as good as the 2 other 210 weapons that already exist
and god forbid you like playing more than 1 job