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    Frankly they either needed to:

    1) Put that this quest was a requirement to purchasing replicas, both in the patch notes and in game

    or

    2) ALSO accept the item achievement for obtaining a Zeta (which gives you the "Z" title) - this seems more sensible, I mean you can't get this achievement without a Zeta!! I hope it was just overlooked.

    Because doing the Vital Title quest was NOT REQUIRED for obtaining your Zeta.

    I really hope we can get an official response.
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    Last edited by seida; 12-16-2015 at 11:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seida View Post
    Frankly they either needed to:

    1) Put that this quest was a requirement to purchasing replicas, both in the patch notes and in game

    or

    2) ALSO accept the item achievement for obtaining a Zeta (which gives you the "Z" title) - this seems more sensible, I mean you can't get this achievement without a Zeta!! I hope it was just overlooked.

    Because doing the Vital Title quest was NOT REQUIRED for obtaining your Zeta.

    I really hope we can get an official response.
    Isn't the quest required to get the title?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Isn't the quest required to get the title?
    Nope! You get the "Z" title when you get your Zeta (the quest before "The Vital Title")

    The quest required for buying the replica was an extra, unnecessary quest that appeared AFTER you obtained your zeta. I know in my case, and many others', if you had more than one job to 50 he always had a red quest marker, so I didn't notice he had a new quest related to the Zeta. It didn't do anything except unlock an extra achievement, as far as I can tell.
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    I have a question, so if I finish my BLM Lilith Rod Zeta, can I buy the replicas of ONLY the stardust rods (and all stages towards Lilith Zeta) and NOT any other relic weapons from other classes?

    If so, this really suck because no one is going to spend an entire week to do the whole thing again (Thats how long I spent)and waste another 1 mil+ gil, 80k or so GC seals and not to mention 3750 Allied seals for the Alexandrites.

    This is BS beyond BS. I think you should be able to buy the replicas for ALL classes once you get your first Zeta because they are only good for glamour anyway.

    If SE thinks that people should do the relic quests for all classes to get their Zeta replicas, then how letting the developers do what they expect people to do, starting from 0 gil, GC seals and Allied seals?
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    Last edited by Xorianne; 11-26-2016 at 08:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xorianne View Post
    I have a question, so if I finish my BLM Lilith Rod Zeta, can I buy the replicas of ONLY the stardust rods (and all stages towards Lilith Zeta) and NOT any other relic weapons from other classes?

    If so, this really suck because no one is going to spend an entire week to do the whole thing again (Thats how long I spent)and waste another 1 mil+ gil, 80k or so GC seals and not to mention 3750 Allied seals for the Alexandrites.

    This is BS beyond BS. I think you should be able to buy the replicas for ALL classes once you get your first Zeta because they are only good for glamour anyway.

    If SE thinks that people should do the relic quests for all classes to get their Zeta replicas, then how letting the developers do what they expect people to do, starting from 0 gil, GC seals and Allied seals?
    That's correct, you have to do the whole quest line again, if you are planning weapons for other jobs. Zeta's can be turned in for the first step of the new lvl 60 relics and therefore it makes sense to keep them locked to specific jobs and not unlock them all at once after finishing one. Old ARR relics have been nerfed to the ground, it took us over 8+ months (36mil of gil, thousands of tomes & weekly missions) to get an zeta as it was new, and even than we needed to do it for every single job if we wanted the relic. There's no problem at all with that, you can nowadays finish an old relic within a couple of days and no effort.
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaFaye View Post
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    So why didn't they make it that zeta replicas COULDN'T be turned in for the new relics? And allow you to unlock all zeta replicas that way.

    Oh and if you want the sense of work to remain, make every relic require 100'000'000x the amount of resources required currently, as well as a 500 billion gil downpayment made to Gerolt per Zeta. Also, anyone who currently has a relic that ISN'T a Zeta or i80, it automatically destroys it and makes them start all over again. So then you'd need to start with 300m thav mists for the Zenith phase of your frist relic.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    I disagree with you on the point that it takes a couple of days to finish an old relic ( I am assuming zenith to zeta). It DOES NOT takes a couple of days. It needs 1 mil+ gil (Which if u are wealthy, it shouldn't be a problem, but if not, well, good luck getting the gil you need), 80k+ GCseals for the Bombard Cores (this means several weeks of expert deliveries, grinding fates, and leves), 2000-3000 poetic tomestones (which you will get from dungeon grind anyway, so not a big deal), 100+ dungeons grinds including those you cannot solo(so if you are dps, good luck waiting for the 20-30 mins queue to do one of the required dungeon and guess what, there are about 25-30 dungeons you cannot solo because the adds and boss are too strong and your fc mates are too selfish to help you with any of them anyway) and last but not least, 3750 Allied seals ( in the other words, hunt until your eyes bleed). Oh did I mention you need at least 3 x 9 leves allowance just for Atma to Animus too?

    I understand how it has been nerf down and all but if anything, these weapons are only good for glamour and nothing more nowadays. You got to Zeta, experienced the content and do what needs to be done. So what is the point of having people grinding the same thing over and over and over again anyway?

    There is hard and there is ridiculous. This... is simply ridiculous and BS.
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    Last edited by Xorianne; 11-28-2016 at 05:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaFaye View Post
    you can nowadays finish an old relic within a couple of days and no effort.
    No you can't unless your required job is 60 to do the dungeon content unsynced. Even then, it is still a grind and I'm guessing that running the 50 dungeons unsynced will actually still be slower for a solo Lv 60 rather than running it synced @50 with others who will get you in and out of those dungeons in 15 minutes or less. If you're DPS, you might be better of running it unsynced due to queue times.

    Those damn books too:
    90 enemies
    27 dungeons
    27 FATEs (Many of which are on a 1 hour respawn time, and also NPC initiated which can be longer)
    27 Leves (assuming you don't have to do additional to get the one you need to pop)

    Even this alone in two days is serious time put in, and wouldn't plan for much outside FFXIV.

    I am smack dab in the middle of getting my first Zeta. I know it isn't anything like it used to be before 3.0, but you still need a crap load of gil, GC seals, and well more than the 2000 capped poetics to get this thing done. You still have to gather light, which is not a fast process unless you love raids and EX primals, and you're going to be running more dungeons for a chance at the items needed for the Zodiac Braves step in the upgrade. Unless this drop rate has been increased to 100%?

    If you can get it done in two days and retain your patience, I will gracefully bow and call you M'lord.
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    Last edited by Gemina; 11-28-2016 at 04:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    and you're going to be running more dungeons for a chance at the items needed for the Zodiac Braves step in the upgrade. Unless this drop rate has been increased to 100%?
    Jup, it has been - doesnt help the fact that its still a huge grind, but at least you dont have to run AV 40+ times anymore... and yes, I've met a poor soul like that
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