Can future relic weapons have special abilities?

[aurace1095]

Except.. relics are the easiest high tier weapons to obtain? Time consuming, yeah but infinitely easier than being capable of farming things like T5/9/13 when they were relevant or A4S as of now.

Well, in 2.x relics ended up being better than the last tier of raid weapons. Personally, I think the raid gear should have the better stats, but that's a completely different discussion. I'm just saying that all gear should have unique / complex stats, with harder to obtain stuff such as relic weapons or raid weapons having better stats. It still won't lead to gear discrimination, because going back to my original point, gear is already set up with some gear being better, having better stats, and people without specific pieces of that gear aren't discriminated against. Adding unique stats will not change that.

[Deathscythe343]

I would like to see something like this added in the future as well. I know this subject is one that I have seen requested repeatedly over the years.

On a side note, I do like how WoW is going to handle the artifact weapons for their new expansion, which is basically the same thing as our relic weapons.

[Panasync]

Except.. relics are the easiest high tier weapons to obtain? Time consuming, yeah but infinitely easier than being capable of farming things like T5/9/13 when they were relevant or A4S as of now.

I wouldn't call the time you had to put into a relic easy, and I certainly wouldn't be against them making you put more time into it (if the time is compensated w/something unique or cool about them other than their look). Hopefully with something more entertaining than doing the same primal fight 2000 times for lights, but that's besides the point. The time I put into the Relic probably outweighed my time in 5/9/13 combined, not looking forward to doing more content like that in all honesty.

The only thing hard with raid weapons was the RNG involved in getting them, with the totems/tokens system that's all but gone.

[DukeGr]

For me the solution is rather simple and can easily be implemented with current game mechanics.

First of all concerning weapons, all top weapons from each tier, Relic/Artifact/Raid will have a special materia slot attached to them in which you will be able to add a selection of weapon specific materia that add special abilities. For example some special weapon abilities i can think about are, dmg procs, status effect procs, utility procs. For example you can have a Paladin have a dmg proc on his weapon (Holy Strike with 5% chance that does 2-3k dmg) etc, or a Bard that has Paralyze effect on his bow with 5% chance and for utility you can lower the cd of certain skills for each class. Special Materia Augmented weapons will have a specific glow depending on the materia used.

Secondly about armor, you can utilize a similar system as weapons for top tier armor sets, you can even go as far as add materia set bonus combinations. For example if u slot specific materia to each armor piece you will unlock some hidden bonus.

Lastly about the acquisition of the special materia, what you can do is have them be end-game oriented but not make them impossible for casuals to get, otherwise the system won't be used by anyone but a small minority. Token exchange system would work wonders here for excess Law/Esos.

All in all i believe if a system similar to this would be implemented it will add some kind of endgame customization (that is not just cosmetic) to at least differentiate players slightly from each other.

[WellFooled]

For me the solution is rather simple and can easily be implemented with current game mechanics.

This does sound like a great solution. Its a great shame that the Materia system hasn't been more fully developed. This would kill two birds with one stone.

[FoxyAreku]

I'd rather them have tier sets like in WoW.

Wear all the pieces of a set (like the full savage alexander set or the full esoteric set) and you get a perk to your job. For example, extra crit chance for scholar, or a chance for Ruin III to fire twice for summoner, just as some general examples of what they could do.

[Reynhart]

This "mandatory" nonsense really needs to stop.
Relics Nexus and Zetas were, at their time, THE absolute BiS weapon for every job. If people were really denied content because they weren't "optimal", anyone without a perfect Relic would have been excluded from hard content already.

[DukeGr]

I'd rather them have tier sets like in WoW.

Wear all the pieces of a set (like the full savage alexander set or the full esoteric set) and you get a perk to your job. For example, extra crit chance for scholar, or a chance for Ruin III to fire twice for summoner, just as some general examples of what they could do.

Why should you be limited by a set in terms of how you want your gear to be augmented? By utilizing the materia system you can add your own special stuff wherever you want with whatever combo/options you want, the whole point here is to add some personalization not just another BiS Weapon/Set.

[loreleidiangelo]

This "mandatory" nonsense really needs to stop.
Relics Nexus and Zetas were, at their time, THE absolute BiS weapon for every job. If people were really denied content because they weren't "optimal", anyone without a perfect Relic would have been excluded from hard content already.

Well, substats were a reasonably minor difference compared to something like item level(weapon damage), which is why no one cared what substats your i135 weapon had, so long as it was, y'know, an i135 one.

Adding additional or unique effects would probably amount to much more of a difference in DPS/HPS/mitigation unless the effects are something so minor as to be negligible anyway...in which case that would kind of defeat the purpose of what people are asking for in this thread.

[Reynhart]

Well, substats were a reasonably minor difference compared to something like item level(weapon damage), which is why no one cared what substats your i135 weapon had, so long as it was, y'know, an i135 one.

Were you kicked out of Final Coil because you only had an i110 or 120 weapon ?

Were tanks kicked out because they chose to spend their bonus stats on STR when people thought VIT was better, or the opposite ?