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  1. #11
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    fm_fenrir's Avatar
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    Makasita Fenrir
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 60
    Always be annoyed at bad DPS. NIN are the easiest to be bad at, it seems; I can count the NIN who use Goad on one hand after an unfortunate bandsaw accident.
    (0)
    #gitgud

    Ongoing mission: Tank everything on DRG. On purpose.

  2. #12
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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Character
    Jace Ossura
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 100
    I hate tanks providing anecdotal evidence in a whine thread.
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  3. #13
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    DukeGr's Avatar
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    Aug 2013
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Ralkon Kon'lai
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    This is a multidimensional problem. Not only does the game allow people that got absolutely no clue of how to play their classes or/are undergeared queue for said content, it throws all the hard work back to healers and tanks making the roles infuriating at times.

    I won't even mention the low level dungeons, but for example the new pre-60 dungeons level 51-53-55 etc, they are a nightmare to do unless you make a premade group. Why? Because you got Fate and Roulette Levelers that got level 30 gear and know only how to use their basic rotation which they used in level 15 Sastasha. DPS using their level 15 rotation: Check, Healers spamming Cure II: Check, Tanks that can't keep aggro: Check.

    There needs to be some kind of wall that people wont be able to pass unless they get certain ilevel and skill. Be it some kind of proving grounds, training or w/e, the bottom line is you cant just throw people at level 50-60 with 30 skills and no idea of how to use them wearing a level 30 rag from Haukke Manor and expect people to carry them over.
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  4. #14
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    AskaRay's Avatar
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    Aeon Rakshasa
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ChiiSoSeriouz View Post
    I don't even ask for foe in dungeons anymore, I just silently judge them when they don't use it.
    I won't use it if I don't see the healer (if they're the only caster) not use Cleric in the first couple pulls.
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  5. #15
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    Kassiekane's Avatar
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    Character
    Elione Skyracer
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    I hate tanks providing anecdotal evidence in a whine thread.
    I'm sorry, would you prefer to watch me grind dungeons for 4 hours straight in order to prove my point?
    (0)

  6. #16
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    XiXiQ's Avatar
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    Character
    Xixi Eclipse
    World
    Ravana
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    I find you can have a much better time by not concerning yourself with everyone else's imperfections.
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  7. #17
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    Yunona's Avatar
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    Character
    Stormageddon Bear
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 60
    So I have a question my alt is a 50 NIN and I use doton on bosses. I honestly didn't know it was bad, I just try to learn how it all works for my dps, So I will keep in mind that is bad, I'm sorry if you got me in a dungeon and I annoyed you...
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    I am a servant as a tank. I also must still lead us through each path, I need my teams help. I work to protect, not to rule. I am a Tank.

  8. #18
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Character
    Estellise Valesti
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by XiXiQ View Post
    I find you can have a much better time by not concerning yourself with everyone else's imperfections.
    If it causes a 20-30 minute run to turn into a 45-60 minute run then... it's kind of an issue that you may want to concern yourself with. Not everyone has the time to run a single dungeon for an hour.
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  9. #19
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    Character
    Ivar Lyfjaberg
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    i got tired of playing a tank, sometimes its to much work to hold argo especially when DPS are being lazy and not attacking the target that i assigned as "1" and "2" , then when they get argo and die they want to blame the tank? My feelings as a Dragoon is to single attack small trash pulls maybe 3 or less mobs and then use AOE on large trash pulls
    (0)

  10. #20
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Raizel Eterna
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 70
    I have to say that I am not that experienced in the game and that Dragoon is the only job that I feel like I've made some decent progress in mastering, but I've seen things similar to this.

    On point it was Cutter's Cry with me on WHM and my friend on SMN. After a few trash pulls I was noticing that everything was dying slower than I thought it would despite going into Clerics a few times but then I started paying attention to the other dps, a DRG. They weren't using Heavy Thrust, the Full Thrust combo, or any buffs. I only ever saw them use Jump and the Spear Throw Skill aside from auto-attacking. Quite frankly I was shocked as I had not seen something like that quite before.

    Then 2/3rd of the way my friend mentions as nicely as possible about Heavy Thrust and the DRG uses it at last, well once or twice anyway, while mentioning that they had 'always been using it'. I let them die at the Chimera when they weren't even trying to dodge the ice aoe.
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