Should I be annoyed?

[karateorangutang]

Annoyed?

Sure, there's nothing wrong with being annoyed.

It's all in how your react to the annoyance that you feel. If your blowing up every sub-par DPS that you run into on a DF duty then your gonna have a very abysmal time playing this game. DF parties are gonna be sub-par nearly half the time, which is why the DF exists in the first place. Whether or not it's right won't affect the reality.

You can ask and prod politely, but don't let it ruin your time. Find a buddy or two and team up with them if you can. That way your guaranteed to at least have a decent party.

[DPZ2]

Whenever getting into a dungeon with lazy support DPS I just want to scream. Like really, why bother play bard if you refuse to play any songs?

Which particular songs, in which particular dungeon instances?

I have yet to run into a situation where a well-made tank or melee DPS runs out of TP in a level 50-or-less dungeon; some of the songs only work if there are MP-based DPS in the group (not talking about healers here ...); and most well-made healers I've encountered don't appear to run out of MP either. That's it for 'songs' in the 50-and-under crowd, unless you want to run faster ...

Or were you complaining about asking for a particular song in an instance and then not getting one?

The segue from "Especially ninjas" to Bardish songs and then back to Ninjas was just a tad confusing, by the way.

[VanilleFang]

; and most well-made healers I've encountered don't appear to run out of MP either.

Hey, my MP is totally not my problem if I go ham with Holy. You want me to DPS and us SoS? Psh. Yeah right! /obviousnotobvioussarcasm

[VanilleFang]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I can't exactly argue, but at the same time I don't see the harm. If someone wants to complain lethat them. If you don't want to see someone complain then stay away from the thread. Sometimes you have a bad run and you just want to blow off some steam. Someone shouldn't be criticized for that. Also, last I checked, there aren't any threads specifically about bad DPS. The ones in the Healer Forum are focused on a healer's pov and experience (bad tank, bad dps, lazy cohealer).

[Darkstride]

So I have a question my alt is a 50 NIN and I use doton on bosses. I honestly didn't know it was bad, I just try to learn how it all works for my dps, So I will keep in mind that is bad, I'm sorry if you got me in a dungeon and I annoyed you...

Only use Doton in a group of targets when it will last its' entire duration, or if you are using Kassatsu (it makes all ticks Crit). Doton is intended for AoE and bosses are generally a single target, so Doton would be inferior to your single target Ninjutsu.

[vp_cmc]

I am a bard and I have 3 questions (exp roulette):
1. Is it ok, if I get aggro from 2-3 mobs because they have my dots, and I use dots+RoD spam rotation, not focusing on single target?
2. After that tanks begin to mark mobs. What they want me to do? Perform single target rotation?
3. If they mark mobs and want me to perform single target rotation, why they pull 2-3 packs of mobs then?

[AskaRay]

I am a bard and I have 3 questions (exp roulette):
1. Is it ok, if I get aggro from 2-3 mobs because they have my dots, and I use dots+RoD spam rotation, not focusing on single target?
2. After that tanks begin to mark mobs. What they want me to do? Perform single target rotation?
3. If they mark mobs and want me to perform single target rotation, why they pull 2-3 packs of mobs then?

All these can be summed up with:
Tell the tank to get better. If they want people to single-target, they shouldn't pull that much.

[Sawamura]

I don´t bother to be annoyed anymore. Cause is hopeless with Duty finder.

When I tank:
I don´t remember a single dps can get hate off me with big pull or no tank stance at boss and top dps as tank with boss. Remember too much of dying dps, DRG 123 and no HT/Dot, BRD spam heavy shot, Blm spam blizard(not sure wtf going on), nin spam 123 and no ninjtsu, mnk can´t keep GL or pos, mch no hot shot and spam split shot, smn spam ruin II and not even know pet attack another thing or stand there chill out.

When I Dps:
So many bad tank with easy lose hate big pull and I has to switch target all the time.
Tank shitty opening and lose hate at boss. Like PLD no fight or flight, war tomahawk and drk no dark art.
If I see a dps perform shitty. All I need to do is double dps or kill hard hit mob faster. Well that is what I do most of time anyways lol.

When I heal:
I don´t know.. I just dps more than heal tank or dps XD. I mean if everyone is alive = no problem right XD? shitty eos or selene is doing a good job with keep them alive!

So I only give commendation IF i see a good player.

[lulunami]

I am a bard and I have 3 questions (exp roulette):
1. Is it ok, if I get aggro from 2-3 mobs because they have my dots, and I use dots+RoD spam rotation, not focusing on single target?
2. After that tanks begin to mark mobs. What they want me to do? Perform single target rotation?
3. If they mark mobs and want me to perform single target rotation, why they pull 2-3 packs of mobs then?

You should generally try to multi-dot everything, flaming arrow, and RoD for packs. (I think one exception is if the the group wants to focus down something like the honeycomb wall trash skip in Arboretum.) Tanks should be using AoE threat moves and cycling through single target combos on every mob, so they are not supposed to lose hate.

[Bebekurenai]

I can understand why you would get annoyed, I get annoyed sometimes too. But these ocasions I try to help or give input if I see something wrong or someone not "performing how they should". If I don't get response, or no change, and/or rudeness, then I will be annoyed. But most of the times it's players who are still learning the job. Heck I even went back to dungeons to practice jobs I was levelling or had levelled earlier, just to try understand them. Also sometimes we take for granted that in HW content players would at least know the pre-50 things, but you don't see the person behind the character. Maybe they forgot how to play after a long break. You don't know if they have a puppy claiming attention, or if they are ill and/or in pain trying to get distraction with the game, or if it's a parent showing his child how pretty this game is. I get that some don't have time to run a 30 min dungeon for 15 min more than needed, but hey, and yes the old "it's only a game", it really is a game :/ Can't you really spend more time for another living being?
If they are jerks or bots then ofc, let's get annoyed, and I will be the first one to leave (no I don't force to be kicked, I am woman enough to go).