AST's weakness in end game

[TatoRazzino]

People always cry about DPS numbers and you think that TP/MP cards, which reduce the amount of time BRD/MCH needs to sing, are bad? The spells fit to the lore as it was presented in the quests: chanelling aether from the stars while manipulating time and fate. The job is themed in every single aspect.

[Yhisa]

People always cry about DPS numbers and you think that TP/MP cards, which reduce the amount of time BRD/MCH needs to sing, are bad? The spells fit to the lore as it was presented in the quests: chanelling aether from the stars while manipulating time and fate. The job is themed in every single aspect.

Hmm not my fault that brd/ mech get penalty for using tp/mp regen ... Plus its a more reliable regen... By the time u pulled ewer or spire from ur ass the bard/mech would already solved the problem in less time meaning ur precious ewer/spire card is wasted .. In raid content if ur with a bard/mech... Or ninja. Ewer and spire is instantly useless because theres is stronger and is aoe xD

[TatoRazzino]

That's not true at all. In A2S no Spire or Ewer gets wasted. BRD/MCH only has to use their refresh skills around the second to last mob, which means that if you could get any Spires or Ewers you can prevent them from ever using their skills, or at least allow them to use them for less time, which will increase overall DPS. Those cards work just fine as means to prevent TP/MP shortage, you just have to know the fight to use them. In case they are not needed, they work just fine as Royal Road fodders for AoEing any of your other cards.

It's not your fault that they have to sacrifice DPS to support the party, but eliminating the need for this DPS loss is a value neither WHM nor SCH can add to the party. People wanted uniqueness, so embrace one of the unique aspects of the AST job

[Yhisa]

The cards and skills that need rework (focus card mechanic etc)

Draw - give us mp each time we draw!!

Spear - wasted A Lot unless u got godly prediction skills

Ewer - bard /mech does better job plus healers got shroud / aetherflow /energy drain/ tetragram

Arrow - Scholar selene is way better 3% near perminate buff for whole fight

Spire - bard /mech/ ninja does better job

Shuffle - remove cooldown all together allow me to battle it out with rng myself

[TatoRazzino]

The cards and skills that need rework (focus card mechanic etc)

Draw - give us mp each time we draw!!

Spear - wasted A Lot unless u got godly prediction skills

Ewer - bard /mech does better job plus healers got shroud / aetherflow /energy drain/ tetragram

Arrow - Scholar selene is way better 3% near perminate buff for whole fight

Spire - bard /mech/ ninja does better job

Shuffle - remove cooldown all together allow me to battle it out with rng myself

A single Arrow drawn is equivalent to 3 casts of Selene's buff. If you can use it with the Extended Royal Road buff, it's worth six times more. How is that worse than Selene's buff? The Fairy barely adds an extra GCD every 3 minutes, for crying out loud.
For the Spear: it's pretty easy to predict off-GCD skills. NIN, MCH and SMN are always using them; Tanks usually rotate cooldowns. If you don't feel like doing any of those, Royal Road it and double the duration of your next card.

The cards are not bad. You don't know how to use them, and that's clear from your replies. In fact, I doubt you even read what other people write since the "problems" you present have been dealt with over and over in several forums.

[Yhisa]

That\\'s not true at all. In A2S no Spire or Ewer gets wasted. BRD/MCH only has to use their refresh skills around the second to last mob, which means that if you could get any Spires or Ewers you can prevent them from ever using their skills, or at least allow them to use them for less time,

Lmfao u ignored the fact that u need to pull spire or ewer from ur ass to begin with to even help mech/bard out in the first place as an AST u need to play like u will not get good cards to begin with...also that ur trying to set up cards for a certain phase,

There are many other reasons why ewer and spire is wasted, all dps got invigorate , smn and sch both got aetherflow and energy drain, whm got shroud and ansize , blm got infinite mp, warrior got tp recover aswell in dps stance ... So yeah just mentioning these already make ewer and apire extreamly weak

[TatoRazzino]

Lmfao u ignored the fact that u need to pull spire or ewer from ur ass to begin with to even help mech/bard out in the first place as an AST u need to play like u will not get good cards to begin with...also that ur trying to set up cards for a certain phase,

There are many other reasons why ewer and spire is wasted, all dps got invigorate , smn and sch both got aetherflow and energy drain, whm got shroud and ansize , blm got infinite mp, warrior got tp recover aswell in dps stance ... So yeah just mentioning these already make ewer and apire extreamly weak

Do you even do Savage? Invigorate doesn't prevent PLD (who doesn't have invigorate in the first place), BRD, MCH, DRG and MNK from running out of TP in A2S; the same is true for MP management for WHM and AST. If you're not pulling either one of those, it means you're pulling Boles, Balances, Arrows and Spears, which are all useful cards for that fight. However, all cards are wasted if you don't know how to use them.

[Yhisa]

A single Arrow drawn is equivalent to 3 casts of Selene\\'s buff. If you can use it with the Extended Royal Road buff, it\\'s worth six times more. How is that worse than Selene\\'s buff? The Fairy barely adds an extra GCD every 3 minutes, for crying out loud

Sigh u just shown how clueless u are

Arrow is 10% on 1 player 5% if aoe and require luck to even get arrow in the first place

Seleene is 3% for majority of the fight, require not rng and lasts 30secs and is aoe

And i do know how to use my cards thank u, but u know RNG is a pain in the ass

U cannot garentee u will pull spear before a tank get hit by tank buster, u cannot garentee u will pulll ewer or spire to get mp/tp back

Arrow is only good for blm using laylines , spear is beat for jobs with off cds like ninja with mug, jugulate,ninjustsu , goad, smoke screen, mutilate,

But sure apparently i dont know how to use my cards lol

[Yhisa]

Do you even do Savage? Invigorate doesn't prevent PLD (who doesn't have invigorate in the first place), BRD, MCH, DRG and MNK from running out of TP in A2S; the same is true for MP management for WHM and AST. If you're not pulling either one of those, it means you're pulling Boles, Balances, Arrows and Spears, which are all useful cards for that fight. However, all cards are wasted if you don't know how to use them.

Spear is too situational , jesus christ do u even savage as ast?? Or are u one of these forum pricks who want to be that special snow flake and argue it out because u want to be right and wont refuse solid facts??

[Yhisa]

Do you even do Savage? Invigorate doesn't prevent PLD (who doesn't have invigorate in the first place), BRD, MCH, DRG and MNK from running out of TP in A2S; the same is true for MP management for WHM and AST. If you're not pulling either one of those, it means you're pulling Boles, Balances, Arrows and Spears, which are all useful cards for that fight. However, all cards are wasted if you don't know how to use them.

And ur stupid i did not even mention pld in the list because i know they cannot get tp back... Only mp, do u even read??