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  1. #21
    Player
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    Zosia Twinrova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji1134 View Post
    Ah Raider Master Race... Have the casuals realized that our castles stand on pillars build of their saltiness and (NSFW) sand?
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  2. #22
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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    The whole point of relic weapons since 2.x was to serve as a non-raid equivalent weapon for the folks not cool enough to keep up with current raids,
    Actually, relics are meant to serve as alternatives for people who do raid and are getting screwed over by RNG. It's something not gated by RNG that a raider can fall back on so they can start the next new set of raids without having to continue farming the previous one for a similar weapon and never see it drop (which happens, to this day I have >60 t5 clears and still have never seen the MNK or Healer weapons drop once).
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  3. #23
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    Actually, relics are meant to serve as alternatives for people who do raid and are getting screwed over by RNG. It's something not gated by RNG that a raider can fall back on so they can start the next new set of raids without having to continue farming the previous one for a similar weapon and never see it drop (which happens, to this day I have >60 t5 clears and still have never seen the MNK or Healer weapons drop once).
    lol RNG. Atma, Animus, and Zodica would like to have a word with you.
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  4. #24
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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    lol RNG. Atma, Animus, and Zodica would like to have a word with you.
    Those are parts of the Zodiac weapon, not the original Relic and what it was designed for. The Zodiac weapon creation quest introduced RNG into the equation and made it nothing more than a time sink. It lost its purpose by then and it was actually quicker, cheaper, and easier to just aim for the the raid drop.
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  5. #25
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    It's still RNG no matter how you slice it. There was massive outcry with Atma in the original form because some people got stuck for weeks or months due to the required drops not dropping. No matter if you went for a raid weapon or relic, you could not escape from RNG.
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  6. #26
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    Mature Rudlum
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    They won't make it 205 , its gonna go straight to 210.
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  7. #27
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    Frederick Blake
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    Quote Originally Posted by anguel View Post
    i see, thats too bad if it happen like this, because i can see thousand of drama rising if it were from AS4 wep xD
    Why are you saing that the relic weapons will require the alexander savage weapons? No hell no, that is never going to happen. SE will never put raid and relic weapons on the same path. They didnt even do this with coil back on 2.X

    I dont understand why are you so confused O.O
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  8. #28
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    Charlotte Elise
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    Kujata
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    They won't make it 205 , its gonna go straight to 210.
    With 5 entire steps, one would hope so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    Actually, relics are meant to serve as alternatives for people who do raid and are getting screwed over by RNG. It's something not gated by RNG that a raider can fall back on so they can start the next new set of raids without having to continue farming the previous one for a similar weapon and never see it drop (which happens, to this day I have >60 t5 clears and still have never seen the MNK or Healer weapons drop once).
    Actually it's intention was for the "casual" player base. It's an alternative for those who don't raid but want to put in the time for a weapon on par with one, or rather, on par after a few months after the raiding weapons are out.
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  9. #29
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    Osiril Abel
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Relic 2.0 did not require endgame hardcore raiding.....YES
    Relic 3.0 will not require endgame hardore raiding.....YES

    Trust me i come from the future.
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  10. #30
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    Ac Ungarmax
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    If relic weapons required AS4 weapon, mercenary groups would make BANK.
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