Absolute frustration at not being able to see my own DPS (ps4)

[Kezy_Kaatapoh]

Fears are based in realities. It's an emotional response to perceived threats, we're human beings, we can't help but feel things. Some will fear, some will laugh, some will not care.

Fears are based in perceived realities, not realities themselves. There are people genuinely afraid of clowns. Does that mean they are right to fear clowns? That there is something wrong with clowns that makes them feel this way and clowns need to be held back or changed? No. Many of these fears mentioned about parsers are irrational fears. Irrational fears are the responsibility of the individual, not everyone around them. Please read my earlier post that you've apparently missed.

Also, I don't see why an environment where it's OK to criticize based on performance WOULDN'T be good. In content that matters, that should be encouraged. People have already shown that it wouldn't be a greater issue than it already is in content where performance doesn't matter.

[Kosmos992k]

Fears are based in perceived realities, not realities themselves.

Since I am unaware of the actual realities in every situation, I can hardly say anything other than perceived realities. I can say that I am aware of the realities in a number of cases, and their fears were quite justified by reality, not simply perception. You also have to consider that fear can be a learned behavior based on a previous negative experience of actual events, which may predispose a person to fear similar situations in the future.

Also, I said perceived reality because every experience and feeling we have in life is based on our perception of what happens around us. My perceived reality can be the sun rising in the morning because I perceive the warmth of it's light. Of course the sun is in fact rising casting the warm light, so it's both reality and my perceived reality. You can use wordplay to quibble with how someone feels, but at the end of the day, when you tell someone to stop fearing something because it's a baseless fear based on their perception, not only are you telling that person how to think, but you're also implying that their perception is skewed.

As for the original point of the topic, personal parsers have limited scope for abuse, and personally I'm neither for nor against them.

[Kezy_Kaatapoh]

when you tell someone to stop fearing something because it's a baseless fear based on their perception, not only are you telling that person how to think, but you're also implying that their perception is skewed.

First off, you're really good at ignoring the parts that bring your argument down. But secondly, let me just say to this part I quoted, yes, yes I am. Because their perception is skewed. That's why when someone says they "disproved" their fear, it's because their perception was skewed and that person showed them how it really is.

On telling people how to think, that's a principle our entire society is based on. Telling people what is and isn't ok to think. A serial killer thinks murdering is fun. Am I to not tell them it's not ok to do that because it's telling them how to think? When someone says they don't want parsers for some reason that is not reasonable, I am going to tell them how to think, because the way they're thinking is incorrect in the context of the conversation. Let's just stop ALL debate and differing opinions because no one should tell anyone how to think!

Does it stink someone somewhere got their feelings hurt for something that isn't the parser's fault and they fear parsers now? Yeah. But it's not the parser's fault, so, and this will sound a little harsh, I don't care about their fear. It's misplaced based on principles of logic and similar examples in history and is not worth holding back the rest of the playerbase for.

Nothing you said addresses my arguments to you. You're reaching now.

[Kaurie]

My perceived reality can be the sun rising in the morning because I perceive the warmth of it's light. Of course the sun is in fact rising casting the warm light, so it's both reality and my perceived reality.

Just a note, the sun rising is your perceived reality but not an actual reality. The sun is not rising, the reason it appears to be rising is the planet rotated in a way relative to the sun that it looks that way (TLDR has more to do with the planet moving than the sun moving).

As for parsing, I feel very late to this thread and there are so many arguments, but here is my 2 cents.

Personal Parsers are more likely to encourage bad behavior than public ones, this is because in addition to the concerns of "elitists" forcing their standards on others, there will also be people who attack others and lie about their own progress. You'll have people demanding others post their parse, and people talking smack about others not performing well. When they say 'well my parser actually says'... 'Yeah right lol noob, we don't believe you. stop making up sh*t" etc..

Public Parsers will have everything out in the open, so there will be no hiding, no lying etc. It will allow you from the get go to see how you compare to people around you and work towards improvement if you so desire.

Not having a parser withholds data from the user.

In all 3 situations there will be jerks, and there is already ToS in place to handle jerks.

In my opinion, the downsides of not having a parser outweigh the potential downsides of having one, and that a public parser is less likely to cause problems than a personal one. This is all speculation, as there has been no research on the subject. Ultimately, everyone gets their data from one game which went from no parsers to allowing parsers, and the data is all anecdotal and not at all scientific.