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    Seyb's Avatar
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    Never use Toil ever again. Toil is bad bad bad. It has been bad since old times of ARR. Even without the collectable game in HW, Toil has always been bad for almost any unspoiled gathering activity. All you need is one hit on the slot and 300 GP is saved. The only situation when Toil is useful is if the item changes slot number every time.
    I wouldn't say that. It is the only way to save one gathering attempt in the early 50s. With toil + Discerning Eye + Methodical Apraisal + Methodical Apraisal, you can get 4 collectables at level 50 to turn in. How else could you achieve that?
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    Caimie Tsukino
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seyb View Post
    I wouldn't say that. It is the only way to save one gathering attempt in the early 50s. With toil + Discerning Eye + Methodical Apraisal + Methodical Apraisal, you can get 4 collectables at level 50 to turn in. How else could you achieve that?
    Well, fair enough.
    For me, I never bothered with collectables until level 60 since leves + GC turn-ins were sufficient for my leveling process. :/
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

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    Sir Rawrz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seyb View Post
    I wouldn't say that. It is the only way to save one gathering attempt in the early 50s. With toil + Discerning Eye + Methodical Apraisal + Methodical Apraisal, you can get 4 collectables at level 50 to turn in. How else could you achieve that?
    In my opinion, you should only be using skills like toil when you want to mass unlock all the items from the node, the very first time. From then on, after its been discovered, you should be saving the 300gp to heal the node with ageless words/Solid Reason if you don't need the GP for the extra appraisal. After you get Single mind you don't need to use ageless/Solid, but that's what it's good for before 57 for collectables, but I guess that early when you're not using instinctual for the rng boost, it works the same! xD
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 12-03-2015 at 10:49 AM.