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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    Something like 5am PST would translate into 10pm in Japan, I don't think it would hurt the team that much to do all non patch maintenances around that time.
    Why should they have to work late into the night, just so you can play when its more convenient for you? The reason the maintenance happens at this time, is because that time is more convenient for them in Japan. They built the game, and should be able to choose the time most convenient for them. And yes, we pay our subs.... but us NA players are not the only player-base that pays for subs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacosta View Post
    Why should they have to work late into the night, just so you can play when its more convenient for you? The reason the maintenance happens at this time, is because that time is more convenient for them in Japan. They built the game, and should be able to choose the time most convenient for them. And yes, we pay our subs.... but us NA players are not the only player-base that pays for subs.
    Same reason police work in the night, as well as myself in the casino business, fast food workers and every single person who's in medical and retail work environments. Customer satisfaction. If shutting the game down at a different time whether or not it benefits me, which in this case it doesn't, would put them out of business it would have already happened since they prefer to do business within their time rather an accepted international time.There is no reason they can't shut down NA at a certain time to update, close off character creation for all other open servers, as well as transfers and then repeat for the EU and JP servers. EU and JP could even go first, honestly it doesn't bother me.

    Not once have I stated my time is more valuable then someone else, we all overpay for this game each month, we should all be looked at as equal customers when it comes to something like this and I'm well aware they can't just pick a time that magically works for everyone. But that doesn't mean they couldn't look at their current ways of operation and see there could be more effective ways to handle non important hot fixes.

    At the casino we don't turn off our games all at once and cash out or update them all at once, we would legitimately run out of business so quick if we did that. We shut down certain sections at a time that hasn't seen many players. Different level of work here I know but the concept is the same. I'm not saying players are leaving because the game is down to presumably give tweaks to diadem and thordan. All I'm saying is, which people are oddly only reading what they want, is there should be away for a company, that has a international product, to offer maintenance times within those other areas that better reflect each areas lowest population times.
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    Last edited by Jetstream_Fox; 11-25-2015 at 04:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
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    Police and Medical are not something I would compare work hours on due to how their jobs work honestly. I don't know much about the casino buisness to say anything there, and as for fast food and retail, many of those types don't stay open 24/7 (though they do work later then many other buisnesses.) That said many non-retail/food buisnesses close up before 6 pm here in the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    Same reason police work in the night, as well as myself in the casino business, fast food workers and every single person who's in medical and retail work environments.
    Medical signing in!


    I'll never bitch about the maint times, even if late night // early morning hours are my usual playtimes.
    Want to know why? (Of course you do! )

    Because For as long as MMOs are around, there will be maintenance. Someone, somewhere will get shafted regardless of when that maintenance is.

    I typically work graveyard, and maintenance does eat into my playtime, but I know that maintenance that happens late at night suits the 9-5 crowd who I'd like to think makes up the majority of the workforce. (I say 9-5, but it's a catch-all term for those who are generally asleep at a humane hour, unlike me... QQ /sadface)
    If this maintenance time was to shift to earlier in the day, it's going to jack someone else over. Someone, somewhere will be shafted... We drew the short straw.

    Maint times will not change, right now they do suit a lot of people, more specifically the guys doing the maintenance. And I'm fine with that! They have a home life, kids, families, pets etc.

    Can you imagine if someone walked into my ER and I refused to treat them because it was past 9pm and I wanted to be home in my slippers, eating nutella from the jar without a spoon?! Aw hell naw. People would pitch a fit. And probably sue me...

    tl;dr: Maintenance will screw someone over regardless of when it is. Go get yourself some nutella, it's good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
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    When I was in IT, calls outside of normal operating hours were billed at a premium....sometimes 2x the normal rate or higher. Plus, I got mileage if I had to go on-site.

    Just saying... you are comparing the normal business hour schedule model against a 24/7 model or an extended hours schedule.
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    they wont change it

    its based of japanese work times not ours. if it was warcraft we might stand a chance #bring samurai to 14
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    The maintenance time is fine for me. I'm always asleep when they do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    Not once have I stated my time is more valuable then someone else....blah blah blah, casino, blah blah blah
    The fact that you made this thread to complain about the maintenance being at an inconvenient time for you, is the same as stating that your time is more valuable than others'. And you are barking up the wrong tree with that casino nonsense, as I worked at a casino for many years and still dont agree that Square Employees need to go back to the office late at night to patch a game, so that NA customers can get their evening playtime in. The reason casinos are open all hours of the day, is because they are greedy and know that customers will come in and spend money at all hours of the day. It's not so much to make it convenient for the players, but to make as much money as possible. Square Enix will not make any more money than they do now, if they change maintenance times. The players that want to stop subscribing b/c of maintenance are the same type of player that will stop subscribing over other petty issues.
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