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    Adol Giantbane
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Launched View Post
    Average mitigation isn't everything. PLD uses cooldowns individually and gets the full benefit of them. WAR and DRK stack Inner Beast and Dark Mind with other cooldowns which means that they're less effective. Sentinel itself is 40%, Inner Beast+Vengeance is only 44%, not 50%.
    Don't think of it like that. If you do, you start fooling yourself into thinking Defiance works a lot differently (outside of heal abilities) than Shield Oath when considering additional cooldowns. IE, WARs cooldowns are somehow *better* because they're not diminished by Defiance in the same way PLD's cooldowns are diminished by Shield Oath. Which is just not true at all.

    Think of it in terms of effective HP and effective healing, not just mitigation, if you want to analyze these skills. You'll find that abilities actually work better when stacked together in terms of boosts to effective HP and effective healing. What you're sort of getting at is that even if that's true, it's often dumb to stack them all at once when you don't need to. Being nigh invulnerable for 10s isn't worth it if you're completely exposed for the next 2-3min or so.


    Separately, if you're worried about maintaining constant mitigation over time, I'm pretty sure the WAR still wins. They can always Inner Beast > Infuriate > Inner Beast > Vengeance > Inner Beast > Raw Intuition > Inner Beast > Thrill + Convalescence + Foresight > Inner Beast > Infuriate > Inner Beast and maintain about 1 minute, 31seconds of solid, unbroken 20%+ physical mitigation. The PLD can what, Rampart > Sentinel > Bulwark > Hallowed Ground with maybe an unreliable Sheltron or two thrown in for a good 55s? And that's not even 100% reliable due to Bulwark. After that you're on fumes with whatever your natural block rate is and a cross classed foresight on its own with a longer cooldown.

    After this, the WAR will have inner beast up again very quickly, Intuition is ready after 90 seconds and Vengeance + the Thrill combo are ready every 2min. The PLD, on the other hand, only gets Rampart back after 90s. Sentinel and Bulwark are 3min, and Hallowed is 5min (or is it 6, I forget...).
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    Last edited by Giantbane; 11-24-2015 at 08:17 AM.