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    Reynhart's Avatar
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    You even mentioned it yourself that Holmgang doesn't mitigate anything.
    Yes, to point out that they are real "Oh, shit!" button, whereas Hallowed Ground is frequently a part of the usual cooldown rotation.

    The problem is not that PLD is in a "terrible" shape. It isn't. The problem is that, WAR DPS is definitely better than PLD. It's expected, since it's its purpose.
    But, mitigation wise, the gap between the two is not that clear, even hanging dangerously on the "WAR can be better" side.

    And since WAR and PLD are both "physical" tanks, the scenario is not so implausible.
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    Adol Giantbane
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    And since WAR and PLD are both "physical" tanks, the scenario is not so implausible.
    PLD is the physical tank, DRK is the magical tank, WAR is the everything tank. I personally don't think it's very good balance.


    However, there is one caveat to all this. Most parses and what not that say WAR is the damage king always include a lot of stance dancing with Fel Cleaves and only using storm's path when necessary. When they're doing this, they're losing a LOT of their mitigation since they're losing their main mitigation tool, Inner Beast.

    What you're talking about here is a WAR in full on, defensive, tank mode. If they never drop out of Defiance in order to maximize their defenses, I wonder what happens to the WAR DPS. My guess is that the WAR is going to take a huge hit, and may not be much if any better than the PLD in that regard.

    Assuming that's the case, the comparison between the two classes isn't as straightforward. Although the WAR is still better off because they can weave in and out of Defiance easily with little penalty, while the DRK & PLD suffer broken combos and lost GCDs.
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    Last edited by Giantbane; 11-24-2015 at 08:50 AM.