Topic on exclusive items

[Skivvy]

Pfft

If thousands of players already have it then why not put it on mog? C:

That is a horrible idea.

SE needs to go back to letting players purchase old event gear from NPC when the event comes up again (Moonfaire, xmas, halloween, etc). Pulling items from the game to sell it on the Mog Station is balls.

This wouldn't help you for things like lightning hair and the moogle outfit, but seriously, this is an MMO. Some items are just going to be exclusive, or one-time only, because that is the nature of MMOs.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I don't see the need to meet in the middle. You participate in the event and get a reward, or you don't.

Considering you asked "what's more compelling to a new player " earlier, I find this line of reason rather contradictory. New players aren't going to give one iota about your experiences in an event once they find out they can't get the items or do the event themselves. So, in essence, your experiences for other players are completely meaningless.

That is a horrible idea.

SE needs to go back to letting players purchase old event gear from NPC when the event comes up again (Moonfaire, xmas, halloween, etc). Pulling items from the game to sell it on the Mog Station is balls.

This wouldn't help you for things like lightning hair and the moogle outfit, but seriously, this is an MMO. Some items are just going to be exclusive, or one-time only, because that is the nature of MMOs.

How is it a horrible idea? People want the items, but missed the event. Thus, they make them purchasable for those willing. Asking most just be made available via gil would diminish the event somewhat.

[raymon]

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your actual memories of the event won't go away just because it was put in the cash shop, and if anything tell newer players that an event is coming up/is happening and if they don't do it then they will have to wait about a whole year in order to get the item again. item exclusivity never real stuck me as important. so you got a item form an event X amount of time ago. would it not be much better to have the exclusive item be the more difficult to obtain rather then locking it behind a gated time frame? for example the mount that drops in A4S. i really want this mount but i lack the desire to do savage. so i wont be getting it. and if anything its more of a exclusive trophy then the event items. it shows you completed really hard content and not the i that you have played when the event happens so its far more valuable since it shows your skills and dedication to getting hard core content. for the more casual there is gonnan be the relic which will be nerfed over a long period of time, but while it is still new if you do it a far as the progress lets you for that patch. that shows that you do indeed put a lot of work into the gam

[Skivvy]

How is it a horrible idea? People want the items, but missed the event. Thus, they make them purchasable for those willing. Asking most just be made available via gil would diminish the event somewhat.

I don't think cash shops have any place in a subscription game (outside of character services - fantasias, world transfer, name change, etc).

This is a game that we had to purchase to play, and we pay a monthly subscription to continue playing. It's double-dipping with your paying customers. Cash shops should be left to F2P and B2P games.

So now we have people practically begging SE to release more and more items to their cash shop instead of making them available via in-game methods. How many more "exclusive" items do you want them develop for their cash shop versus putting them into the actual game?

[Lexia]

Well I can see how people get this way cause of schools and stuff that give out participation awards so that little johnny over there doesn't feel left out. Which brings us to the game well people now think that even though they were not there they still think they should get all the stuff that the other players that were around got. MMOs for items like event can almost be just like RL you were either there to take part in the event and get the items or you were not. Especially when the game start to get 5 years and people complain about stuff people got years ago and they don't cause they just started.

[Seryl199]

Considering you asked "what's more compelling to a new player " earlier, I find this line of reason rather contradictory. New players aren't going to give one iota about your experiences in an event once they find out they can't get the items or do the event themselves. So, in essence, your experiences for other players are completely meaningless.

It's part of the event experience. You take part in a limited time event, and part of that event is an exclusive reward, and a fun conversation piece. If not, look forward to the next one.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I don't think cash shops have any place in a subscription game (outside of character services - fantasias, world transfer, name change, etc).

This is a game that we had to purchase to play, and we pay a monthly subscription to continue playing. It's double-dipping with your paying customers. Cash shops should be left to F2P and B2P games.

So now we have people practically begging SE to release more and more items to their cash shop instead of making them available via in-game methods. How many more "exclusive" items do you want them develop for their cash shop versus putting them into the actual game?

This differs from F2P/B2P because every item thus far is exclusive for vanity. Provided they keep that model, I have no real issues with the Cash Shop because I'm technically not missing anything relevant. The fact they mostly just toss old event items on there only makes it easier to accept.

As for our subscription fees. Those pay for the assortment of continuous content we are given. Unlike say, WoW, we get patch updates fairly quickly. They make plenty of gear you can get in-game. Frankly, most of it is better than anything on the Cash Shop. So I don't see it as a big deal.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

It's part of the event experience. You take part in a limited time event, and part of that event is an exclusive reward, and a fun conversation piece. If not, look forward to the next one.

That is just plain silly. If you actually feel slighted event items did not remain exclusive, then I question what exactly you're placing value in. Put simply, those fun conversations won't be shared with newer players, because they aren't going to care about your experiences. I, for one, wouldn't want to hear about your experiences after discovering I can't partake in them for myself. That would only make me want them more. So, you'll get a "oh, coolio." or "that's nice" from me, and nothing else.

If this were accessible in-game, but only after a difficult grind or challenging boss, then I would love to hear about it because I can resolve to put in that same level of commitment. A fifteen minute quest lacks the same reverence.

[Niwashi]

I've never once lorded over anyone the fact that I have a moogle costume, or lightning hair, or any other fluff item that this is supposedly about.

Sure, you have. Every time you say other people who didn't take part in the events shouldn't be able to get them.

I truly don't understand how people can feel they deserve to have every last item in a game, even if they weren't around at the time, or simply didn't partake when the opportunity was presented to them. To me, that is entitlement.

They don't deserve to get it any more than you deserve for it to be exclusive.

Apart from a couple items released for the express purpose of commemorating people's presence at the close of the 1.x version of the game, nothing else has been offered as an exclusive event item. Items that you receive through events may possibly wind up as de facto exclusives if they don't happen to be offered again, but there's no reason to expect exclusivity as an entitlement on them.

You (and a lot of people with the same view) seem to think that just because something has ever had a period of not being available, it should therefore never be available again. That's nonsense.

[Skivvy]

Sure, you have. Every time you say other people who didn't take part in the events shouldn't be able to get them.



They don't deserve to get it any more than you deserve for it to be exclusive.

Apart from a couple items released for the express purpose of commemorating people's presence at the close of the 1.x version of the game, nothing else has been offered as an exclusive event item. Items that you receive through events may possibly wind up as de facto exclusives if they don't happen to be offered again, but there's no reason to expect exclusivity as an entitlement on them.

You (and a lot of people with the same view) seem to think that just because something has ever had a period of not being available, it should therefore never be available again. That's nonsense.

You seem to like me But in all seriousness, being of the opinion that some items should remain exclusive is not the same as lording it over someone. That is simply being an adult and acknowledging the fact that sometimes cool rewards get passed out to those who participated in something special. That is it.

I think some items should come back annually, like how it does in XI. If you read all my posts, you would have seen that before claiming I don't want anything to come back ever.