Topic on exclusive items

[PawsTheKitti123]

Is it just me, or do people fight with me alot on this topic? Does it happen to anyone else?

Exclusivity. We all love it dont we? Yes

But however some people tend to get very salty and get nasty and rude to others who say "I wish ___ would return. I never got a chance to do it! I really want ___"

After that statement, the people who have said item roll in and start saying things like NO. YOUCANT HAVE IT BECAUSE ITS OVER. YOU SNOOZE YOU LOSE


Or they say it kindly, which is alot better. Some have it and dont care if others do, etc.

Then there are people who scream and whine that they dont have it. (I wont lie Ive done this before)

Im bringing this up because of my moogle attire thread, Ive been getting alot of crap because of salty people coming and saying I cant have it because it needs to stay special etc etc and Ive gotten rude back, but I just gave up. If i get hate there ill just be kind and say thank you for the input.

Am I only one with these problems?

[Tint]

i am just tired of the people. they will ask every week the same question. and then, IF they would bring the lightning event back for example, we will have the same topics again and again just a week after the event ended c.c

[Colorful]

Let me just say that I think exclusivity with digital items is one of the silliest things I've heard of, they usually exist for the sole purpose of getting a large influx of money in a short period of time. The only thing I believe should be "exclusive" are items that are incredibly hard to earn, whether due to long grinds or whatever else. Like the Kirin, except it should never be nerfed. That's the only point that exclusivity actually starts to mean something.

[Talraen]

Let me just say that I think exclusivity with digital items is one of the silliest things I've heard of, they usually exist for the sole purpose of getting a large influx of money in a short period of time. The only thing I believe should be "exclusive" are items that are incredibly hard to earn, whether due to long grinds or whatever else. Like the Kirin, except it should never be nerfed. That's the only point that exclusivity actually starts to mean something.

Yes, exclusive items exist to make money. That is absolutely correct. And they make less money if people don't trust that they are exclusive. That's how business works!

[Colorful]

Yes, exclusive items exist to make money. That is absolutely correct. And they make less money if people don't trust that they are exclusive. That's how business works!

If they cost money, then no, they're not going to be making more money. In fact they'll be making more money if it was a permanent item, just spread out over a longer period of time.

[Kosmos992k]

Let me just say that I think exclusivity with digital items is one of the silliest things I've heard of, they usually exist for the sole purpose of getting a large influx of money in a short period of time.

There is a problem with this thought though. First of all, the digital items in this game includes *everything* we have, so digital items do not usually exist for the sole purpose of getting a large influx of money. The seasonal and other special events in game with their exclusive items do not exist to generate a large influx of money, they are fan service for loyal players. If you're not here when an event happens and an exclusive item remains exclusive to the event, how is that 'silly'?

In a virtual world all items are digital. In a physical world all items are physical. If you go to a special event IRL and they are giving out T-shirts, you'll only get them there, unless someone later sells theirs. In game it's the same thing with items from seasonal and special events fulfilling the exact same role. So please, explain to me how it's 'silly'.

The only thing I believe should be "exclusive" are items that are incredibly hard to earn, whether due to long grinds or whatever else. Like the Kirin, except it should never be nerfed. That's the only point that exclusivity actually starts to mean something.

Exclusivity IRL has nothing to do with skill, but simply being there. In game exclusivity is a *reward* to the loyal subscribers who stick around and partake in the events. If you're not there, don't take part or unsubbed, then yeah, you're not going to get the exclusive thing. I'd go as far as to say that making any seasonal and special event items available in the shop detracts from the reward element of the event and item. If people can't be bothered to sub, or take part, then really they should not be able to get the item. Perhaps folks should be thankful to SE for giving them the opportunity to purchase some of those things in the MogStation. Although Personally I wouldn't shed a tear if no item exclusive to a seasonal or special event ever appeared on the MogStation.

I agree that legacy stuff should be left alone, the items are a reward for paying a subscription of a dying game and minions from CD or Plushies are still being sold, so they should be left alone, but everyone else is fair game, in my opinion.

Hold on, you can't have it both ways, you can't say that you want legacy items to be exclusive on the grounds that people weren't there to support the game then, but turn around and say it's OK to have items from a seasonal event that happened a year ago available in the shop. Those subbed to the game at the time of the event were supporting the game the same way that players supported FFXIV 1.X . If you want to maintain exclusivity for Legacy on the basis of continued support, that's fine, and I agree, but I think you're wrong to turn around and say the opposite for exclusive items since 2.0 launched, it's hypocritical.

I think a lot of people in this topic need to look up 'opportunity cost' and consider that the exclusivity of an item and the chagrin you feel at not having it later is an example of taking the opportunity to avoid the cost (at the time) but now regretting that choice.

[Colorful]

There is a problem with this thought though. First of all, the digital items in this game includes *everything* we have, so digital items do not usually exist for the sole purpose of getting a large influx of money. The seasonal and other special events in game with their exclusive items do not exist to generate a large influx of money, they are fan service for loyal players. If you're not here when an event happens and an exclusive item remains exclusive to the event, how is that 'silly'?

I think you're missing my point entirely, I'm well aware that everything is digital, but when they're time limited digital items they exist to make a large influx of money in a relatively short amount of time. Say they released a goblin costume for $20, it's bound to sell more than a few copies, but not a large amount. Now, sell that item but throw it up for a month. Everyone's going to be screaming for that item because it's the only chance they'll ever have to get it, you're selling it to anyone who's interested even remotely in the item in the span of a month, while people might otherwise purchase it even a year later.

In game exclusivity is a *reward* to the loyal subscribers who stick around and partake in the events. If you're not there, don't take part or unsubbed, then yeah, you're not going to get the exclusive thing

We already have a system in place that rewards loyal players, which are the veteran rewards. Not only does this constantly reward players who have been subscribed since the beginning by constantly adding new items, but it also gives newer players something to look forward to while continuing to stay subscribed to the game. I believe that's the proper way to do it, instead of asking for more money. You don't reward loyal players by charging them them more. It's gotten to the point where the Veteran Rewards have started to get worse and worse with each addition, even the latest one should have been part of the previous Firion set.

[RiceisNice]

Hold on, you can't have it both ways, you can't say that you want legacy items to be exclusive on the grounds that people weren't there to support the game then, but turn around and say it's OK to have items from a seasonal event that happened a year ago available in the shop.

If you consider seasonal/holiday (something that is reoccuring every year) items to be in the same vein and concept as the exclusive items (which are usually made for specific one-time events, like cross overs or the closure of 1.0), then sure.

[Kosmos992k]

If you consider seasonal/holiday (something that is reoccuring every year) items to be in the same vein and concept as the exclusive items (which are usually made for specific one-time events, like cross overs or the closure of 1.0), then sure.

If they make a new event with new items each and every time, then yes, why not? The same season or holiday recurs, but *not* the same event or items.

[RiceisNice]

If they make a new event with new items each and every time, then yes, why not? The same season or holiday recurs, but *not* the same event or items.

Certainly doesn't seem to be SE's stance on the matter when 2014's moonfire festival included all the swimsuit sets, and 2015's moonfire included the same swimsuits and 2015's yukatas. Not to say they didn't have some items that were exclusive to it (such as furnishings and such), but that end is on SE's decision on what should be kept exclusive or not. Whether you agree with it or not is the thing, but you'd need more than a "why not" to get a discussion going.