Topic on exclusive items

[LionFranco]

You misunderstood what I was saying. You weren't there for a legacy event or an almost 2 year old limited time event, why do you feel that you should be entitled to get the rewards from that content when you weren't supporting the game when those events were going on?

[Colorful]

Speaking of plushies...you all need to stop buying those Carbuncle plushies so that I can get one!

...please? I'm a sucker for cuddly animals! Haven't you seen all the stuffed... nevermind.

I don't care much for the plushies, but the minions... SE really needs to make enough to supply the demand, and then start shipping them to Australia.

[Lexia]

Yes the "i didn't know about it" isn't a excuse, if you missed it sorry move on with life. Do people go into a store to find out last week the product they want to buy was on sale last week and demand that they get it for that same price cause they didn't know about it? Well working retail I have actually seen that but they are told no they can't get it for the sale price that was selling for week before. Now people will argue that well they can still get just have to pay a higher price, true but even if SE stuck stuff in cash shop then people would complain that the other players got the items for free in the game. So there is really no way to make the people that missed it 100% happy.

[Colorful]

if SE stuck stuff in cash shop then people would complain that the other players got the items for free in the game. So there is really no way to make the people that missed it 100% happy.

SE already does that with seasonal event items. I'm of the opinion that the moogle suit shouldn't be on the cash shop, I was around for it but didn't purchase the ticket because I did not care for it, and still do not care for it, but hey, if it satisfies the people with their little exclusivity obsession let it be. But locking seasonal items behind a paywall if you missed out is still quite scummy if I'm going to be honest. I bought into it though, so I guess I shouldn't complain.

[RiceisNice]

SE already does that with seasonal event items. I'm of the opinion that the moogle suit shouldn't be on the cash shop, I was around for it but didn't purchase the ticket because I did not care for it, and still do not care for it, but hey, if it satisfies the people with their little exclusivity obsession let it be. But locking seasonal items behind a paywall if you missed out is still quite scummy if I'm going to be honest. I bought into it though, so I guess I shouldn't complain.

Things like holiday items should be reoccurring (preferably not through the cash shop, but blah...), because well...the holiday itself is reoccuring. Other things like anniversary specials, milestone events or legacy rewards should remain as is.

[Colorful]

Things like holiday items should be reoccurring (preferably not through the cash shop, but blah...), because well...the holiday itself is reoccuring. Other things like anniversary specials, milestone events or legacy rewards should remain as is.

Exactly, I think the past year events should be replayable too. Picture in 5 years time a new player joins and a seasonal event rolls around, that new player now has at least a weeks worth of content to do with many new costumes and fun events to partake in. In our current situation? The player has to cough up a quite a bit of cash to get the past event items, but I guess that's their intent.

[Kosmos992k]

Let me just say that I think exclusivity with digital items is one of the silliest things I've heard of, they usually exist for the sole purpose of getting a large influx of money in a short period of time.

There is a problem with this thought though. First of all, the digital items in this game includes *everything* we have, so digital items do not usually exist for the sole purpose of getting a large influx of money. The seasonal and other special events in game with their exclusive items do not exist to generate a large influx of money, they are fan service for loyal players. If you're not here when an event happens and an exclusive item remains exclusive to the event, how is that 'silly'?

In a virtual world all items are digital. In a physical world all items are physical. If you go to a special event IRL and they are giving out T-shirts, you'll only get them there, unless someone later sells theirs. In game it's the same thing with items from seasonal and special events fulfilling the exact same role. So please, explain to me how it's 'silly'.

The only thing I believe should be "exclusive" are items that are incredibly hard to earn, whether due to long grinds or whatever else. Like the Kirin, except it should never be nerfed. That's the only point that exclusivity actually starts to mean something.

Exclusivity IRL has nothing to do with skill, but simply being there. In game exclusivity is a *reward* to the loyal subscribers who stick around and partake in the events. If you're not there, don't take part or unsubbed, then yeah, you're not going to get the exclusive thing. I'd go as far as to say that making any seasonal and special event items available in the shop detracts from the reward element of the event and item. If people can't be bothered to sub, or take part, then really they should not be able to get the item. Perhaps folks should be thankful to SE for giving them the opportunity to purchase some of those things in the MogStation. Although Personally I wouldn't shed a tear if no item exclusive to a seasonal or special event ever appeared on the MogStation.

I agree that legacy stuff should be left alone, the items are a reward for paying a subscription of a dying game and minions from CD or Plushies are still being sold, so they should be left alone, but everyone else is fair game, in my opinion.

Hold on, you can't have it both ways, you can't say that you want legacy items to be exclusive on the grounds that people weren't there to support the game then, but turn around and say it's OK to have items from a seasonal event that happened a year ago available in the shop. Those subbed to the game at the time of the event were supporting the game the same way that players supported FFXIV 1.X . If you want to maintain exclusivity for Legacy on the basis of continued support, that's fine, and I agree, but I think you're wrong to turn around and say the opposite for exclusive items since 2.0 launched, it's hypocritical.

I think a lot of people in this topic need to look up 'opportunity cost' and consider that the exclusivity of an item and the chagrin you feel at not having it later is an example of taking the opportunity to avoid the cost (at the time) but now regretting that choice.

[Colorful]

There is a problem with this thought though. First of all, the digital items in this game includes *everything* we have, so digital items do not usually exist for the sole purpose of getting a large influx of money. The seasonal and other special events in game with their exclusive items do not exist to generate a large influx of money, they are fan service for loyal players. If you're not here when an event happens and an exclusive item remains exclusive to the event, how is that 'silly'?

I think you're missing my point entirely, I'm well aware that everything is digital, but when they're time limited digital items they exist to make a large influx of money in a relatively short amount of time. Say they released a goblin costume for $20, it's bound to sell more than a few copies, but not a large amount. Now, sell that item but throw it up for a month. Everyone's going to be screaming for that item because it's the only chance they'll ever have to get it, you're selling it to anyone who's interested even remotely in the item in the span of a month, while people might otherwise purchase it even a year later.

In game exclusivity is a *reward* to the loyal subscribers who stick around and partake in the events. If you're not there, don't take part or unsubbed, then yeah, you're not going to get the exclusive thing

We already have a system in place that rewards loyal players, which are the veteran rewards. Not only does this constantly reward players who have been subscribed since the beginning by constantly adding new items, but it also gives newer players something to look forward to while continuing to stay subscribed to the game. I believe that's the proper way to do it, instead of asking for more money. You don't reward loyal players by charging them them more. It's gotten to the point where the Veteran Rewards have started to get worse and worse with each addition, even the latest one should have been part of the previous Firion set.

[RiceisNice]

Hold on, you can't have it both ways, you can't say that you want legacy items to be exclusive on the grounds that people weren't there to support the game then, but turn around and say it's OK to have items from a seasonal event that happened a year ago available in the shop.

If you consider seasonal/holiday (something that is reoccuring every year) items to be in the same vein and concept as the exclusive items (which are usually made for specific one-time events, like cross overs or the closure of 1.0), then sure.

[Kosmos992k]

If you consider seasonal/holiday (something that is reoccuring every year) items to be in the same vein and concept as the exclusive items (which are usually made for specific one-time events, like cross overs or the closure of 1.0), then sure.

If they make a new event with new items each and every time, then yes, why not? The same season or holiday recurs, but *not* the same event or items.