Topic on exclusive items

[RiceisNice]

If they make a new event with new items each and every time, then yes, why not? The same season or holiday recurs, but *not* the same event or items.

Certainly doesn't seem to be SE's stance on the matter when 2014's moonfire festival included all the swimsuit sets, and 2015's moonfire included the same swimsuits and 2015's yukatas. Not to say they didn't have some items that were exclusive to it (such as furnishings and such), but that end is on SE's decision on what should be kept exclusive or not. Whether you agree with it or not is the thing, but you'd need more than a "why not" to get a discussion going.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Literally just posted this on your other thread, but here we go.

A quick way to lose faith and respect amongst your paying customers would be to start releasing "exclusive" items that come from events / special purchases to the general playerbase. Essentially, these items are a little "thank you" to customers for spending additional money (either through events, buying CDS, preorders, whatever) outside of your subscription fee.

There seems to be a lot of entitlement that floats around with the crowd who thinks all items should be released to everyone. Outside of showing up to conventions, just about everything else is available easily to those who want to pay for it.

This is patently untrue. The only thing they lose is the ability to lord over others who either are new to the game or missed the event. Say they put Lightning's hair and outfit on the Cash Shop. People who participated in the event got a side quest and free items, whereas everyone else loses that content and must pay for whatever items they fancy. By restricting it instead, you piss off people aren't able to obtain these items. Like, for instance, I am unable to complete my Culinarian log because Haddock is an event item. That's that plan irksome.

It is hardly entitlement asking to pay for items we cannot get otherwise. In fact, that's the precise opposite. If people were clamoring for them to be free, then you could make a case for entitlement. But not now.

[LionFranco]

I can count on one hand people who "lord it over" other players because they have a rare event item. Cry harder!

[Dree-Elle]

I am unable to complete my Culinarian log because Haddock is an event item. That's that plan irksome.

Damn, I thought they would have just chucked them into the FC Vendor like they did the items that make the Starlight Dodo. That's just shit that they didn't. I'd have bought far more if I had known that were going to be the case (afaik, they're sellable on the MB).

It is hardly entitlement asking to pay for items we cannot get otherwise. In fact, that's the precise opposite. If people were clamoring for them to be free, then you could make a case for entitlement. But not now.

THIS.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I can count on one hand people who "lord it over" other players because they have a rare event item. Cry harder!

Oh, the irony.

[Skivvy]

This is patently untrue. The only thing they lose is the ability to lord over others who either are new to the game or missed the event. Say they put Lightning's hair and outfit on the Cash Shop. People who participated in the event got a side quest and free items, whereas everyone else loses that content and must pay for whatever items they fancy. By restricting it instead, you piss off people aren't able to obtain these items. Like, for instance, I am unable to complete my Culinarian log because Haddock is an event item. That's that plan irksome.

It is hardly entitlement asking to pay for items we cannot get otherwise. In fact, that's the precise opposite. If people were clamoring for them to be free, then you could make a case for entitlement. But not now.

I've never once lorded over anyone the fact that I have a moogle costume, or lightning hair, or any other fluff item that this is supposedly about. There are also several items that I don't have because I had either been unsubbed or just missed entirely. That's just how it works.


I truly don't understand how people can feel they deserve to have every last item in a game, even if they weren't around at the time, or simply didn't partake when the opportunity was presented to them. To me, that is entitlement.

[raymon]

for the people who say you should have been supporting the game longer we already have a system in place. its called the veteran rewards.

that aside the only items i feel should stay exclusive are legacy items

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I've never once lorded over anyone the fact that I have a moogle costume, or lightning hair, or any other fluff item that this is supposedly about. There are also several items that I don't have because I had either been unsubbed or just missed entirely. That's just how it works.


I truly don't understand how people can feel they deserve to have every last item in a game, even if they weren't around at the time, or simply didn't partake when the opportunity was presented to them. To me, that is entitlement.

No one is saying they deserve them, but merely want them made available. That is just human nature at work. It especially becomes annoying since you'll see items on other players you have no way of accessing, even if you're willing to pay for them. Exclusivity of glamour gear benefits no one. My paying $10 for the Lightning hair does not suddenly devalue your enjoyment of it. And if it does, well, that's a whole different problem, which hearkens back to my initial point.

Legacy items, I agree, are unique. As they exist solely as a gift to players who paid for a subpar product. In essence, they're a "We're very sorry. Please come back" item.

[Yukiko]

I remember days when a "game" was to have fun...
There is no "fun" if items are "exclusive"...

Where does that bad habit come from? (Looking at others if they have more or less)
Do you have "fun" in searching for an item (example if you like its design) knowing you will NEVER get it?
I do not know why you feel better if others have less or cant get what you have... i feel pity for you!

If you have the items why do you care if others can have it too?
If you dont have the items, would you have more "fun" when you finally can get it too?

What happened with the old "true" gamers, must all be some sort of highscore with "I am better than you"? Really??
Its so sad...

[Kosmos992k]

for the people who say you should have been supporting the game longer we already have a system in place. its called the veteran rewards.

that aside the only items i feel should stay exclusive are legacy items

Veteran rewards are akin to a pre-order bonus, and they are purely related to whether you have a paid subscription or not. Event items require you were a) subscribed, b) active and c) took part. Supporting the game includes more than simply paying the sub. You have to be active, and you have to participate in the game and it's events, that supports the game every bit as much as a subscription does because an empty game feels dead and loses subscribers. the seasonal and other special events are explicitly there to generate activity. If you fail to take part, you're not, in fact, supporting that.