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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    It is hardly entitlement asking to pay for items we cannot get otherwise. In fact, that's the precise opposite. If people were clamoring for them to be free, then you could make a case for entitlement. But not now.
    I don't care so much about the item itself, but rather the event experience. People take part in the events, they talk about them, some events bring about social interactions that would otherwise be left untouched, they have special aesthetics, NPC's and dialogue, festive consumables, and at the end of it all, you get exclusive gear. What's more compelling to a new player when they ask about that exclusive item? When you tell them about the event you participated in to get it, what you enjoyed about it, maybe what you didn't, when you saw someone make a fool of themselves trying to do X, and the festivities that got you that gear, or, "It's an item in the cash shop, buy it." The new player should see events as something to look forward to to obtain exclusive gear, not a passing event to grab a piece of gear for free before SE starts charging for it.
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  2. #42
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    Your exclusive item is so exclusive that thousand of players have it c:
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    As I have said in another thread similar, I don't really care if they bring back the old events but yet it doesn't matter cus then the people who join after or who were on break or whatever will come in and complain about missing the event yet again. Now I do admit, in a way it is kind of a reward or symbol for being dedicated enough to hit every event and I can see why some don't want them to come back, personally I'd just rather have new events rather than them just bringing it back and saying 'Well here is your event, if you did it, ah well"
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Hold on, you can't have it both ways, you can't say that you want legacy items to be exclusive on the grounds that people weren't there to support the game then, but turn around and say it's OK to have items from a seasonal event that happened a year ago available in the shop. Those subbed to the game at the time of the event were supporting the game the same way that players supported FFXIV 1.X . If you want to maintain exclusivity for Legacy on the basis of continued support, that's fine, and I agree, but I think you're wrong to turn around and say the opposite for exclusive items since 2.0 launched, it's hypocritical.

    I think a lot of people in this topic need to look up 'opportunity cost' and consider that the exclusivity of an item and the chagrin you feel at not having it later is an example of taking the opportunity to avoid the cost (at the time) but now regretting that choice.
    Actually, you can, because as I said above, the Legacy items serve a different purpose. They exist as an apology to players who paid full price for a game barely worthy of the Alpha label. Frankly, you could make an argument they bought the gear. Conversely, the assortment of content from FFXIII is just promotional gear.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seryl199 View Post
    I don't care so much about the item itself, but rather the event experience. People take part in the events, they talk about them, some events bring about social interactions that would otherwise be left untouched, they have special aesthetics, NPC's and dialogue, festive consumables, and at the end of it all, you get exclusive gear. What's more compelling to a new player when they ask about that exclusive item? When you tell them about the event you participated in to get it, what you enjoyed about it, maybe what you didn't, when you saw someone make a fool of themselves trying to do X, and the festivities that got you that gear, or, "It's an item in the cash shop, buy it." The new player should see events as something to look forward to to obtain exclusive gear, not a passing event to grab a piece of gear for free before SE starts charging for it.
    But this enforces your own personal experience onto others. Your enjoyment of the event is not diminished because I had to purchase the content via Mogstation. While I may well fancy partaking in it myself, I appreciate they aren't going to necessarily rerun old content. It would be nice if they did, but c'est la vie. Instead, new players are left with being unable to get the items or participate in the event. At least making them purchasable is meeting somewhere in the middle.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit-Kat View Post
    Your exclusive item is so exclusive that thousand of players have it c:
    Pfft

    If thousands of players already have it then why not put it on mog? C:
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  7. #47
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    I'm not that concerned with the exclusivity of my rewards. If everyone else suddenly has a legacy tattoo, I'm not going to quit or anything. But I also understand why people do care. That tattoo, that goobbue mount, those are special things that we earned by playing a game the rest of the world said was garbage. If they become available to everyone, they are no longer special. Yes, it sucks that people can't have everything, but if anyone can have everything than it no longer has any meaning.

    Sure, from your perspective there's no reason you shouldn't have formerly exclusive items. But making them available devalues the memories and efforts of those that do have them. Consider their perspective - either way, someone loses.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    But this enforces your own personal experience onto others. Your enjoyment of the event is not diminished because I had to purchase the content via Mogstation. While I may well fancy partaking in it myself, I appreciate they aren't going to necessarily rerun old content. It would be nice if they did, but c'est la vie. Instead, new players are left with being unable to get the items or participate in the event. At least making them purchasable is meeting somewhere in the middle.
    I don't see the need to meet in the middle. You participate in the event and get a reward, or you don't.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by PawsTheKitti123 View Post
    Pfft

    If thousands of players already have it then why not put it on mog? C:
    That was the point. People are against new players who missed events to get their "exclusive" items that thousand and thousand of players already have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seryl199 View Post
    I don't see the need to meet in the middle. You participate in the event and get a reward, or you don't.
    Exactly. C'est la vie indeed. You couldn't get the item, big deal you missed your chance and get over it. Nah, actually creating thread after thread of whining is what actually happens.
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