Hot fixes have been in the game a lot longer then WoD.One of the big things WoW added in Warlords of Draenor(one of it's better points at that) was a live hotfix system.



Thank you for the capslock, I failed to consider this option before I saw it here.
Actually we did, the gatherer simply said, screw you, should have thought of that before queueing, and then proceeded to roll on all loot. Why the capslock hostility btw? Do you not consider it fair that the whole team shares all the spoils? Or is it a one way street for the gatherers?



i tried it for the the first time via df last night and whole group worked well 2gther finsihed the battle goals killed the NM then every1 went away gathering or just left if some1 shouted there was 5 star monster etc people still grouped to kill it then went back to gatheringThat's a good point too...
I think, perhaps, really this content was intended for FC groups or others who know each other, can work together and get along across goals that aren't necessarily 100% self interest. Then the DF mode was just added so access wouldn't be overly restricted...


I honestly don't know why people would WANT to duty find this. I'd much rather go in with a partial party with friends than have to do this with randoms.
Maybe I'm weird.



imo once the goals are met it becomes more or less open world to do what you want in.. aslong as those goals are completed first people should be free to do what they want in diadem just because 1-2 people go in there with the sole objective to gather doesnt make them leeches or trolls.. theres stuff to do with both dow/dom and gathering classes
if want purely hunt party or gathering party then make a premade in pf or go with your fc.. whose to say your objective is right and some1 else who intended just to gather is wrong??
So your saying that people should listen to your orders and play like you and if they don't play like you they should be kicked?
Because your the ultimate awesome godly player who has destroyed moons galaxy's stars and universes all hail mighty godly champion hero you.


And if we start excluding gatherers, prices are going to rise on items on the MB that require diadem-exclusive materials and we're going to get topics here bitching that prices are too high and gatherers are too greedy. They just can't win.


This isn't a solution at all. Some FC mates went in with two premade parties last night and had to fill a few spots with randoms because we didn't have enough that wanted to go. A couple of the PUGs we brought (got them from PF) helped until we could fly then they spent the entire time gathering. It was made clear before we entered that it was fine to gather if we were clearing near nodes, but if there were mobs to fight they needed to be fighting. They instead spent the entire time flying around looking for buried coffers and gathering from nodes. Still rolled on (and won some) gear that dropped, including 210 stuff.
Guess what we could do about it while we were in there? That's right, absolutely nothing.
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