Alternatively, everything they gather could be put in the treasure pool. It is a "group" activity after all. That'll learn them.
Alternatively, everything they gather could be put in the treasure pool. It is a "group" activity after all. That'll learn them.

Doesn't matter in my opinion the fact is your still getting stuff you didn't work for and gathering can be tough considering none of the stealth stuff works so it goes both ways. The DF version of the Diadem is broken and there needs to be some big changes. Like I said earlier in the thread they need to get rid of the 4 aetherial winds and just let people fly from the start that way people who want to gather should be allowed to go in solo so these issue don't happen.
Of course the whole housing situation is beyond messed so if the FC isn't running it then you have to DF it and then this crap show happens. They really should have though out this better. They should have made different tiers, easy voyages should be level 50 entry requirements and should give the ability to go in and actually level to break up the tedious dungeon runs and even let you go in with solo and use your chocobos. Gatherers should be allowed to go in and do what they want and the easy tier really should be an open free for all for those who aren't interested in groups. Since the difficulty doesn't matter for the gatherers they should keep the normal and hard voyages for those who want to go find loot or even implement a free for all tier.
They really should have known better that the community will not work together at this point (the hunt situation) and anyone who wants to do something different gets chewed out.The drama alone already when you go in is pure garbage. You may not want those clusters but I do and honestly I don't raid so I couldn't care less about 210 gear it means nothing to me but putting a value on something will be an issue most won't get over.
I personally don't roll on the gear that drops as I'm not there for that but that also means I shouldn't have to give up the treasure I find without even a roll on that. The Diadem is cool I like it but it's broken and needs some serious adjustments.

What it boils down to is very simple. Every single item that gatherers get should go onto the loot list. Since gatherers are allowed to roll on every gear drop then every non-gathering player should be able to roll on the mats gathered. Not agreeing with that being fair just points you out as one of the leechers
Allow vote kicking, remove cool down timer
/end thread
Make gathers loot available in the treasure loot pool. Solved ^^
Yeah, vote kick isn't the best solution. The best solution (as I see it) would be to somehow limit the greed button on combat loot to only DoW/DoM. Or to make you have to be within a targetable area from the chest dropped to be able to get loot from it (and yes, this includes those chests Gatherers manage to get, too).Say I wanted to go there and gather, but the people wanted to kill stuff. If there was a vote kick, id be kicked out because of that.
Some mats for stuff only come from this area, and the new mog house glam requires specualisats stuff with mats from there. Stop treating DF like PF.


Did my first run ever today. 10 minutes in, 2 people had an argument. They both quit. At that point, 1 person decided to go gathering, and 5 of us couldn't get credit on any of the big mobs when all the gropus there were burning with a full 8 people. So everyone else left. I got my map achievement and was locked out of it for over an hour and a half. I just logged off after that.

you literally find chests while gathering
you guys are talking through your hats


have you guys actually considered gathering up, and COM MU NI CA TING what where their for? and HELP EACH OTHERThis is why I would like a vote kick option where they player is removed from the party, not the instance. Staying in the party greatly hinders the rest of the team with negligible benefit. Either that or an option to queue to a team that is gatherer orientated. As is currently set up you end up with a lot of unhappy parties.
tbh, the combat players should have access to everything the gatherer picks up. The gatherer has access to everything the combat people add, despite making their job harder.
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