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    More locked content Airship Expeditions.

    Since the best content for Airship expeditions requires a FC with a airship. Allot of FC can not do this because they dont have a house because no land is available. Without a house they can not build a airship. Basically pretty many FC's wont be able to do this content. They have the money for a house there just aint any land available.


    Why would SE lock content behind something they screwed up on which is not having enough housing?

    Also why would you not add some type of housing for those FC's that dont have a house with this patch to help those fc's.

    This needs to be fixed.
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    There's the ishhard airships you can use?


    wat
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    Quote Originally Posted by UltimateAoe2 View Post
    There's the ishhard airships you can use?


    wat
    Which can't do Hard, if I remember the patch notes right.

    OTOH, I'm glad SE is giving an incentive to work together in FCs... and land will free up soon. Though we could still do with having a lot more of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Which can't do Hard, if I remember the patch notes right.

    OTOH, I'm glad SE is giving an incentive to work together in FCs... and land will free up soon. Though we could still do with having a lot more of it.
    Right and from what I understand that is the better content. The amount of land freeing up aint going to make a dent in the demand? It would help if they allowed FC that land first instead of anyone. Plus I dont think that even starts till 45 days from now.

    I only figured this out because I was talking to a FC leader trying to recruit me the other day and he was angry because SE basically made it no so no one will join his fc because of no house. They made it so people are going to leave since they have no house yet to join a FC with airships..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nashred View Post
    Right and from what I understand that is the better content. The amount of land freeing up aint going to make a dent in the demand? It would help if they allowed FC that land first instead of anyone. Plus I dont think that even starts till 45 days from now.
    Well, the devs were saying that 'hard' might not be the best mode to do in all circumstances, as it could result in less NMs/boss mobs being cleared in the allotted time and thus less loot. What remains to be seen is if the loot in normal and easy are worth it.

    As for land... you're mostly correct. I'm expecting a bunch of houses to free up at the 45 day mark (just go to a housing ward and look how many were half decorated or even not at all), but after that, at least there will always be some in circulation. A limited supply system, well, it should have launched with a decay system already in place.
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    hum... op and what stops you to enter a FC or if you are already in one to move your arses and build one airship???

    Content is not locked, just needs more effort

    My FC is SMALL like only 6 people actually log, and even less of us actually contribute, I was selling gardening stuff, retainer venture loot and since release of exploratory airships selling all the loot of exploratory stuff to but partd for more ships and so on...

    is not locked, just is not given to you in a silver plate.
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    We've got a medium sized FC with three airships built, one level 50, and we've opted against hard mode for now because we want to take as many people as possible and we don't want to dip our toes into something too tough and ruin the experience for everyone right off the bat.

    Get your money ready, because Christmas Eve is about when the houses are going to start opening up again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jazo View Post
    hum... op and what stops you to enter a FC or if you are already in one to move your arses and build one airship???

    Content is not locked, just needs more effort

    My FC is SMALL like only 6 people actually log, and even less of us actually contribute, I was selling gardening stuff, retainer venture loot and since release of exploratory airships selling all the loot of exploratory stuff to but partd for more ships and so on...

    is not locked, just is not given to you in a silver plate.
    Did you read what I posted. I was not even talking about myself.. We are talking about FC that dont have a house because of no land available. You are right I can join any FC that will take me but again that dont help those FC that dont have a house.
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    We allied with a bunch of close friends in another FC and now have a Airship Static Group formed. Ask around, socialize. It helps.

    Don't always have to do everything on your own, even when it comes to Free Companies.
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    This statement is completely false on the fact that it begins with the statement that FCs do not have access to the Expedition Exploration feature:

    FALSE.

    Entry Requirement Disciple of War or Magic level 60*
    Item Level Requirement Average item level 179 or above
    Party Size Entering via company workshops:
    Up to 24 (three parties of eight)*
    Entering via Ishgard's airship landing:
    Up to eight

    Time Limit 90 minutes
    Prerequisites Players must complete the main scenario quest "Heavensward."
    The Patch notes further elaborate on how this is done:

    Entry Requirements
    Players must first complete the main scenario quest "Heavensward." To undertake exploratory missions with a free company, players can access them via the company workshop. To undertake exploratory missions without a free company, players must first speak with the NPC Aurvael in the Pillars (X:14 Y:10)
    You can do Easy and Normal with a group of 8 players, which can be of your FC, with the composition of 2 tanks, 2 healers and 4 dps in Ishgard.

    Ishgardian Exploratory Missions
    Players can also journey to The Diadem via Ishgardian airships. Players can undertake Isghardian exploratory missions solo or in a party of up to eight people. Each player of the party must have a mission ceruleum voucher in their possession, which can be purchased from the NPC Jaquoinie in the Pillars (X:14 Y:10) for gil. One voucher is required for each mission. There are no role requirements when entering as a full party. However, parties with less than eight players must adhere to the standard composition of 2 tanks, 2 healers, and 4 DPS
    Nothing is stopping FCs from doing the Diadem. Therefore the content isn't locked. If you are talking about Hard Mode, yes, that is locked for FC airships, but the only thing Hard Mode does is add health to mobs and increase the chance of loot to drop.

    Difficulty
    There are three difficulty levels for exploratory missions. Players can select their desired difficulty prior to undertaking a mission. The strength of enemies and rewards obtained will vary based on this setting. Please note that in order to select the hardest difficulty, you must first chart a route by deploying your airship on an exploratory voyage to specific islands.
    The content, in itself, is not locked from FCs that do not have a home. The difficulty is.

    Reword your arguments or you're bound to get burnt. Everything I linked in quotes as edited was found in the official 3.1 patch notes here: 3.1 Patch Notes (Full)

    If you want to argue about not having Hard Mode, then yes, that's feasible as an argument, but you really aren't missing that much content other than increased drop rate. Looking at the Patch Notes, nothing beyond 210 drops from Diadem which means the clout on getting "better" gear through Hard is not factual, again. You simply have a chance to get more and even then, as people were saying, would not be advantageous for you to start with as you may end up not being able to kill the creatures fast enough to benefit from that.
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    Last edited by KrenianKandos; 11-11-2015 at 01:33 AM.

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