JP server player is calling us out. Step up, NA endgamers.

[Mielle]

People need rewards for their effort, SE reward is 100 Law vs Player reward is 2,000,000 gil. So why help free? Can get both reward: helping new player for Law and getting her/his 2M Gil

Thats why I didn't touch Coil 6 yet let alone Savage nor planing to do it till it is soloable.

I have all the skills needed, but no clue why am still can't clear it
As a tank, I have: Shield Oath, Hallowed Ground ... etc all of them

IF SE prohibited selling contents, would solve this and solve ppl buying gil issue too.

[Laerune]

But how should SE prohibit players from selling content? The only way that I can see it work, is if they nerf the content so hard that even if the worst player can clear it. If the worsr player can clear it, then sellers would not have any customers. But who wants to play a game that is so easy a 5 year old can clear?

[Zojha]

But who wants to play a game that is so easy a 5 year old can clear?

Idle games are a thing. Yes, idle games. Games that play themselves without you doing inputs. Need I say more?

[Mielle]

But how should SE prohibit players from selling content? The only way that I can see it work, is if they nerf the content so hard that even if the worst player can clear it. If the worsr player can clear it, then sellers would not have any customers. But who wants to play a game that is so easy a 5 year old can clear?

Ban whoever announce selling contents?

[Archaell]

Players selling runs are just doing what adventurers always do - doing stuff for gil. No problem there, unless they spam too much. But buying runs... to get into farm parties... that should be bannable offense.

Idle games are a thing. Yes, idle games. Games that play themselves without you doing inputs. Need I say more?

Every single time I step in N Thanalan... Bots, fate bots everywhere. O_O (also too many tanks and healers making my queues long! >.<)

[Blood-Aki]

But how should SE prohibit players from selling content? The only way that I can see it work, is if they nerf the content so hard that even if the worst player can clear it. If the worsr player can clear it, then sellers would not have any customers. But who wants to play a game that is so easy a 5 year old can clear?

COD games are like that, and they are popular, i don't think it will ever be a problem. but there are plenty of other game that also fit that bill. since selling content is exclusive to NA side due to JPS not being that low, i don't think SE would try to step in it. it's sort of a look the other way thing.

[Mielle]

COD games are like that, and they are popular, i don't think it will ever be a problem. but there are plenty of other game that also fit that bill. since selling content is exclusive to NA side due to JPS not being that low, i don't think SE would try to step in it. it's sort of a look the other way thing.

How about IF SE add a system that gives the party a token if they got 1 new member?

Collect this token to get rare mount or weapon or whatever SE want ... now the seller party will shout for LF New member Alexander Savage

[Blood-Aki]

How about IF SE add a system that gives the party a token if they got 1 new member?

Collect this token to get rare mount or weapon or whatever SE want ... now the seller party will shout for LF New member Alexander Savage

Might work, but most people are more concerd about getting rich off new players that need help, so it may not go over that well, unless it's something exclusive to helping.

[xXRaineXx]

Yeah keep whitewashing everyone who succeeds as evil dick wads out to get you. The Man is holding you down! Fight the powa!

Keep blaming everyone for why you can't succeed instead of figuring out why you aren't suceeding.

People keep glossing over the other half of the reason jps can pug A3S. They come prepared. They know their job. They K OW Their jobs. They know how to communicate. They take responsibility for their weak play and work to fix it. When i200 dps can't beat Bismark dps just what do you is going to happen when they walk up to faust? Thats not the Man holding you down. That's on you as an individual.

Sure the 'pros' can be more patient and helpful, but you gotta meet em halfway. You can't just blame the other side for why we as a region suck. Newsflash: that's exactly why we suck. No one takes responsibilities for their own actions let alone respect the actions of others.

Saved

Actually... not all of what you say is true. Still a vast majority of JP players are not prepared for AS3. Most pugs still carry a couple i190's. There isn't really a go-to guide for the JP raiding community. Everyone uses different guides, so every pug does it differently. Most of us know our jobs, some do still do have trouble. Communication on the other hand... is actually slightly less than NA in a way. Voicechat is almost unused, JP players mainly use Skype for voicechat. That's one of the differences here.

Then why do JP players have a easier time to pug things in PF? The readiness to forgive, learn and move on.

Example Situation.

NA Server - In a pug raid group.
P1 - Where's the f**kn heals!
P2 - Why are you even in here if you can't even dps properly?
P3 - F**k lag!
P4 - WTF TANK USE UR CD'S!!!
P5 - Why you in here if u don't even know the mechanics!
*Someone ragequits*
... and so on.

JP Server - Same situation.
P1 - *Makes a mistake* 'I am so sorry, I messed that up...'
Rest of party - どまどま！ - NPNP!

Even if someone makes a mistake, usually that person immediately apologizes and everyone forgives. Of course some may be raging inside, but they still give them a chance. Leaving a pug without having the party agreeing is considered very rude here. If someone wants to stop, they would say 'If we don't get to XX Phase, let's call it'.
Even with a group where you know DPS is not high enough, they give still do at least 5 runs. This gives enough experience for progression.

People shouldn't really be asking why Japanese can pug AS3, they should be asking why they can't pug it.

[AeraLure]

Then why do JP players have a easier time to pug things in PF? The readiness to forgive, learn and move on.

I can't tell you how envious I am. If I didn't already have a great FC and good friends here I would move. Even with the language barrier I would be happier. Friends and FC keep me where I am though.