Yeah it's way late to mention this now but, still no rework for this, Square...?

[8710SqualI]

Well, by this I mean... the end of the 1.0 story line for ARR, needs to have their cutscenes or dungeons reworked to enjoy the ending in it's entirety.

Long story short, my girlfriend finally got to the end of the 1.0 ARR story line. We did Castrum and Praetorium tonight, and it's just utterly disgusting how rude and impatient people are in those places, even STILL when it's not even relative to Tomes anymore.

Most people pass on the bulls**** excuse that you can watch the cutscenes in the inn later, but please tell me why do I have to suffer from wanting to enjoy the game in it's full effect for your impatient ass, when you've done it millions of times already?

It defeats the purpose of even doing the dungeon at all.

[8710SqualI]

Sure you can run with FC members, but Duty Finder is there to help those who either are in not in an FC, or might have members that aren't around at the time.

This is partially Square-Enix's fault AND a player community fault.

So my question is, does Square plan to do some work around this to make the cutscenes. Preferably FORCE those to watch them so people can actually PARTICIPATE in the battles?

Yes, force others. My gf didn't even get to enjoy the boss fights in Praetorium tonight because they all rushed ahead!

Duty Roulette versions of the instance should be separate from the Regular duty finder for those specific newcomers.

[Dererk]

So my question is, does Square plan to do some work around this to make the cutscenes. Preferably FORCE those to watch them so people can actually PARTICIPATE in the battles?

Yes, force others. My gf didn't even get to enjoy the boss fights in Praetorium tonight because they all rushed ahead!

This will never happen if they made it so people wer forced to watch it with the new people no one would join.

The Cut scenes aren't on auto play you have to click to progress them. This means that people can troll by just not doing any thing you'll be caught in a limbo. Not being able to do anything not to mention you cant even report it because you cant get to the report options.

The roulette is there so new people can get it done if they did this people would never do it because theys be too scared to do it.

[8710SqualI]

If people seriously can't wait for new people in those dungeons today, then, yes, you're a jacka**.

No one cares about your speed records or l33t dps in these already easy dungeons now. Just allow new people to freakin' enjoy the content without you having to order them to watch it in the inn, because of your "not on my time." pompous ass attitudes.

[Jpec07]

If people seriously can't wait for new people in those dungeons today, then, yes, you're a jacka**.

No one cares about your speed records or l33t dps in these already easy dungeons now. Just allow new people to freakin' enjoy the content without you having to order them to watch it in the inn, because of your "not on my time." pompous ass attitudes.

The problem is that if they're run at their normal pace with cutscenes intact, those dungeons take 45 minutes to an hour each. When even the more challenging dungeons can be completed in 20-30 minutes, asking people to wait so you can watch something (that you can just watch again later in the inn) is rather absurd. Most people who are there are in it to get experience and Poetics in the most efficient way possible, which unfortunately clashes with new people who might wish to enjoy the cutscenes and the story (because admittedly, they are incredibly epic).

I agree, though, that SE really should do something to fix it, and in a sense they have; no content since then has had cutscenes in the instance like that. But to repair the instances themselves would require a somewhat massive change - and that's something that I don't know if they can do. Just about everyone agrees that it's no fun to be told at the beginning of a long instance: "For your own sanity and to keep up, be sure to skip all the cutscenes." But the problem is that no one can figure out what they should do about it.

My advice that I always give to people who are about to do those instances is to watch the cutscenes beforehand on YouTube, or afterwards in the Inn. It's not as immersive, but it will help your run go much more smoothly.

Oh, and PS: You can bypass the character limit by editing your post.

[Anapingofness]

The problem is that if they're run at their normal pace with cutscenes intact, those dungeons take 45 minutes to an hour each. When even the more challenging dungeons can be completed in 20-30 minutes, asking people to wait so you can watch something (that you can just watch again later in the inn) is rather absurd.

Absurd? Hardly.
Furthermore so what if they take 45min-1hr to do? Those dungeons are under a very specific category so if you queue up for the Main Scenario anything the expectation should be that you will run into newbies who want to experience the storyline and the cutscenes- NOT the opposite.
Nobody put a gun to their heads and told them to queue up for those fights. There are MUCH faster ways of getting Poetics than going into those fights, there have been for a while now.

OP, I will not tell you to resort to YouTube or the Inn to watch your cs. I recommend that you go in as an undersized party. You don't even need a full 7 people, you can get away with 2-3 people easily. It may even make the dungeon a lot more fun for you. In fact, when my sister's alt got to CM and Prae we duoed it. Granted, I was stupidly over geared- and to be honest with you it was a lot of fun.
On the bright side, you won't have this problem after CM and Prae.

Again OP, I'm sorry you had such a frustrating experience.
The people who rushed ahead were jerks and they really had no business queuing for Main Scenario roulette if they weren't going to accommodate players who want to experience the story.
However, don't let a few bad apples spoil the bunch. The main storyline gets pretty epic and it sounds like you guys were enjoying yourselves up till other people decided to be unkind.

[ElHeggunte]

You answered your own question. The content is so old and outdated, it's not really worth going back to find a way to "fix" it. The only ways they could resolve the issue would probably wind up doing more harm than good anyway.

[8710SqualI]

You answered your own question. The content is so old and outdated, it's not really worth going back to find a way to "fix" it. The only ways they could resolve the issue would probably wind up doing more harm than good anyway.

It's still very relevant content, as it's the intro into the new story lines after, and is very important to the rest of the lore. So a rework is still needed in my opinion.

[ElHeggunte]

It's still very relevant content, as it's the intro into the new story lines after, and is very important to the rest of the lore. So a rework is still needed in my opinion.

You're welcome to keep asking for it, but change is unlikely to come. You're asking for a difficult change for a subset of a subset of players. As you already mentioned, there's the option of going with your FC. SE also gave us the Party Finder feature which even has an option to specify that you want to take your time and watch cutscenes specifically for situations like this. Given those two options, it's unlikely that SE would bother to revamp something so old that would only impact a small number of players. So far as they're concerned, the available tools are enough and the issue has been settled.

But let's say that did decide to change it. Using your suggestion to force people to go at a slow pace would only have the effect of shooting new players in the foot by skyrocketing the queue times. There aren't enough new players to always fill the queue and veterans only queue in the first place because the dungeons are so quick and easy. Take that away and you're going to have a problem even getting into the dungeon. You would have a very similar effect if you made two different versions where most players wouldn't bother even queuing for the slower option, again resulting in crazy queue times. You're also making the false assumption that all new players coming through would care enough about the cutscenes to bother watching them.

Unless you like infinitely long queue times you're going to have to put up with dickbags sometimes winding up in your groups; that's true no matter what content you're queuing for and there's ultimately nothing SE can do about it.

[FoxyAreku]

Sorry to nitpick, but the 1.0 story doesn't exist anymore. I think you mean the 2.0 story.

And it's a non-issue and they shouldn't waste resources on it. Realize that you are in a group with 7 other people who have stuff to do and have some consideration, either watch the cutscenes later, or watch them during and let the party leave you behind.