I don't want to tank dungeons anymore...

[Malevicton]

If enjoying the game the way it was made is bad, then I Wonder what's your utopia your're living in.

Neither big nor small pulls are more intended than the other. One is the way you prefer, one is the way others prefer. If it's 3 to 1 against you, then deal with it.

Yeah it's annoying when people pull instead of ask, but they've made what they want pretty clear. Immaturity is not a good way to answer immaturity.

There's more to it for tanks than "what I feel I can handle". For instance, you may or may not trust your DF dps to burn through the pack before your healer runs out of mp and you run out of CDs and tp (and that both the healer and tank can be ready to pick the next pack without having to wait for stuff to fill up, which is not faster anyway).

Frankly this isn't a thing in dungeons. Even spamming the crap out of holy you shouldn't run completely oom or need to wait between pulls.

And like others have said, you want to keep being pushy on tanks? Ok, fair enough, but then don't go crying when you're on a 47 minute queue or longer as dps.

People shouldn't crap on other people in general, not because of their role. Tanks shouldn't be treated more respectfully or shielded from legitimate criticism just because they can hold the group hostage if they aren't; tbh I'd rather wait longer than deal with that type of tank.

[Sicno]

Frankly this isn't a thing in dungeons. Even spamming the crap out of holy you shouldn't run completely oom or need to wait between pulls.

Maybe, but will you have enough for completing the next pull too? Also that's assuming your 2 dps are dealing enough damage and the pull doesn't take longer than it should.

People shouldn't crap on other people in general, not because of their role. Tanks shouldn't be treated more respectfully or shielded from legitimate criticism just because they can hold the group hostage if they aren't; tbh I'd rather wait longer than deal with that type of tank.

That's true, but

1) I don't consider asking to go faster than originally intended in the dungeon's design to be straight out "valid criticism". It falls under some weird grey area where people can normally handle with no problem but that's still not how it was conceived in the first place.

2) You have the wrong idea of what's "holding a group hostage". Standing still while refusing to progress as a way of revenge or trolling or because they went for a smoke or because they had to attend to IRL stuff for a long time is holding the group hostage. Progressing at normal pace but not as fast as expected in the current "meta" is not.

3) 100% agreed, you should treat all people respectfuly all the same and not by role, I'm just saying that poorly treating a role that is scarce and needed is particularly stupid, especially if the reason for your bashing is not "you're messing up" but "I consider you're not being optimal".