3.1 PLD changes look good

[ManaKing]

150 potency ogc Shield Swipe is pretty amazing for both additional DPS and building threat. It looks balanced from here.

Shield Bash has always been overpriced and there is nothing wrong with lowering Goring Blade's TP cost so that intentionally clipping the DoT isn't really a penalty. (Also Goring Blade looks awesome so you can spam it more)

There are too many angry people complaining and not enough people showing appreciation when things are improved. Thank you for the nice things.

[Sapphidia]

Yeah, got to say, whilst we -could- have got more, these are all positives and are likely enough. Reading those changes in the patch notes was a really nice surprise especially after feeling we'd been ignored via what Yoshi said in the recent interview about no plans for DPS boosts.

It's a small change but enough for me to feel reinvigorated about my chosen class.

[ManaKing]

I think what a lot of people are looking for is PLD to be able to stance dance like WAR and DRK. While a lot of people look at that as a QoL change, others can look at it as a balance or play style change.

I personally think SE is molding their Tanks to be intentionally different because all of the jobs were so painfully redundant in 2.0 . There really isn't a point to having PLD, WAR, and DRK if they are all basically the same. I want PLDs to be different than WARs and I want DRK to be different than both of them.

Being able to beat someone with my shield as often as it procs really makes me feel like a part of PLD has been put in place to fit what I expect out of a PLD. It also adds offensive value to Bulwark and Sheltron, which is a very nice change.

[Donjo]

Yeah, the changes are pretty small overall but it feels right. This is kind of just a "hey guys we hear ya!" move from SE to hold us over until 3.2, as they will be changing the way the game treats and reacts to Tanks at that point. Until then, SE is just doing what it does best: being careful.

[Jican]

I'm inclined to disagree. The issues didn't arise overnight, are not small tidbits, and the "change" still needs to be proced. To me, this isn't really a move in the right direction, and certainly not really something that "can hold us out till 3.2 real changes" since we don't even know what those will be yet.

[Isius]

Yeah, got to say, whilst we -could- have got more, these are all positives and are likely enough. Reading those changes in the patch notes was a really nice surprise especially after feeling we'd been ignored via what Yoshi said in the recent interview about no plans for DPS boosts.

It's a small change but enough for me to feel reinvigorated about my chosen class.

I feel the same, but there really are other issues with Pld that needs to be addressed, and would like to see resolved before 3.2, before I am satisfied.

[Baci]

I'm inclined to disagree. The issues didn't arise overnight, are not small tidbits, and the "change" still needs to be proced. To me, this isn't really a move in the right direction, and certainly not really something that "can hold us out till 3.2 real changes" since we don't even know what those will be yet.

Why cant it hold out till 3.2? The part where the Tank damage mattered that much is over. Meanwhile the DPS got enough gear to carry the lower Tankdamage. So its only natural that dps wise there arent any big chances when they want to change the whole dmg calculation for tanks in 3.2 and 3.1 brings no new Savage/DPS checks

[Jican]

So you're mainly saying is it's fine because we waiting this long, hold out for something else that MAY or may not change for the better? I'm sorry, but I can't agree with that logic. Dragging your group down overall simply because is never ok, especially when it's an ongoing problem with no concrete evidence that there is a better change on the horizon.

[Jonnycbad]

Is now an ability and does not trigger global cooldown.
Recast time has been adjusted to 15 seconds.
Potency has been reduced from 210 to 150.

Does this mean it will still require a shield block proc or not? It's not a hassle if it still does, but would be neat if it didn't.

150 Potency is like an extra 500ish damage every 15 seconds, it's not bad by any means, plus the pacification which could come in handle for oGCD as a makeshift stun in weaker content.

Though i would have lovvvvvvvvvvvvvvved if they did these adjustments for Shield Bash too

[ricklessabandon]

There are too many angry people complaining and not enough people showing appreciation when things are improved.

I think a lot of the dissatisfaction is from the assessment that things aren't improved. Honestly this is the first time I've they've missed their mark entirely with a change. Not that I disagree with the mark, or would have liked more, that they aren't accomplishing the things they said they wanted to accomplish. This is confusing and frustrating, and is exacerbated by the fact that every PLD has their own personal grievances list and many of those long-standing sentiments went unaddressed when their job finally got changes.

I play with several tanks that primarily want to play PLD and feel they can't and that S-E isn't really in a rush to resolve that (or even validate the feeling). After seeing the 3.1 changes I'm legitimately worried that the trust burned here may cause them to churn. It's unfortunate, and was avoidable.