3.1 : Astrologian "adjustments''

[Lilith_Merquise]

It feels like AST is designed to be the first "real" buffer class in the game, given that TP and MP regen really don't mean bunk outside of Alex Savage (sorry if you need TP or MP, you're not using your abilities right or your group is terrible). The problem is that this game isn't designed to utilize such a class, so it tires to pigeon hole it into a healer class, but since it has a possibility of strong game changing buffs, they can't make it a great healer either. It's the same thing that BRD/MCH suffer from, sure you can do great DPS, but if you take an equally skilled and geared MNK/DRG they will blow you out of the water hands down. Problem is SE needs to stop being so scared of it's classes or just openly admit that some classes are not designed for certain content, sure you can use it but it won't be an easy go of it. I would rather they take that approach then trying to make everything viable but in return making them extremely diluted from the intent.

[AzureFlare]

From the preliminary patchnotes:
Astrologian Royal Road The effect of Royal Road is no longer lost when leaving an area.

At least we can still pray for nocturnal.

[Fevelle]

From the preliminary patchnotes:
Astrologian Royal Road The effect of Royal Road is no longer lost when leaving an area.

At least we can still pray for nocturnal.

Seriously, I'm disappointed with all the class changes...

[Zaj_Quilos]

(I find funny how some AST players seem to love the RNG so much to a point where they don't want it to be changed, so basically they want to receive cards that are not needed and also want to shuffle and receive the same cards, of course right? Also spend almost 100% of their time mimicking a WHM since their only unique aspect is locked behind long cooldowns that could be lower, or course! If that's what the lore says then its fine right? ugh come on)

Yeah lets just make every card an ability that you can click on at will and clog up the hotbar and make the class boring as ****.

It's weird the change they've made to Royal Road but not touched Spread.

[Vlady]

That is why I feel that the astrologian was originally meant to be able to stance dance between nocturnal and duirnal. In early beta of heavensward the devs talked about changing stances but with a 15 second cooldown or so on swapping between duirnal and noc.

[OpheliaHeartilly]

That is why I feel that the astrologian was originally meant to be able to stance dance between nocturnal and duirnal. In early beta of heavensward the devs talked about changing stances but with a 15 second cooldown or so on swapping between duirnal and noc.

I feel that if I hear you talk about stance dancing one more time in any thread my brain will implode.

[Vlady]

Seriously, I'm disappointed with all the class changes...

Astrologian is on par with the other healers and in alot of cases now being the replacement for white mages. Not sure what the gripe is? As long as we are as strong or stronger then white mages in pure healing we will not have our other issues fixed.

[Zaj_Quilos]

It does not replace WHM. No class replaces another.

[AzureFlare]

Astrologian is on par with the other healers and in alot of cases now being the replacement for white mages. Not sure what the gripe is? As long as we are as strong or stronger then white mages in pure healing we will not have our other issues fixed.

AST is only on par with WHM. It can beat WHM right now depending on the fight and the skill levels, but once you realise AST scales the worst with PIE by having no tool regenerating mana according to PIE (like Assize and Aetherflow) and SCH taking care of mitigation way better than an AST is when AST falling behind becomes painfully obvious later. The only case AST will flat-out beat WHM later without further job changes is if the value of accuracy increases, the healing requirements stay the same and accuracy on healer gear won't be introduced (in which case Balance/Arrow and Combust/Combust2 will push WHM on the sidelines).


And neither healer is on par with SCH. SCH is the off-healer king and the only thing that will change that is making both healers in the 2/2/4 setup having to heal consistently and reducing the value of mitigation drastically, so SCH can't use ED to regain mana for offensive spells and the uptime on Cleric Stance becomes 3 DoTs at most every 30 seconds.

People just want WHM + AST to be a little better without having the other members of the group perform much more and for nocturnal to not be ditched the moment its mitigation isn't required anymore.

[Ranzan]

Wait Ast can heal better than a Whm? O.o damn Whm is always in last place in the healer department. That's.... wow.. SE always talk about Whm being the "premier healer" buy it's never the case.