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    Quote Originally Posted by Starbirth View Post
    The problem with public shaming is it doesn't allow second chances even if the person becomes sincere in trying to change their ways. Why do you think Japans suicide rate is so high.
    The black list isn't mandatory for others to follow, its suggestive, and I don't consider telling others when individuals are dishonest, abusive, or rude to be "public shaming" at all. The japan suicide thing is a little distasteful, off point, off topic, and kinda racist tbh. I'm not sure why it's relevant to the convo. I promise you people aren't killing themselves over not being able to get alex savage PF's...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante_V View Post
    The black list isn't mandatory for others to follow, its suggestive, and I don't consider telling others when individuals are dishonest, abusive, or rude to be "public shaming" at all. The japan suicide thing is a little distasteful, off point, off topic, and kinda racist tbh. I'm not sure why it's relevant to the convo. I promise you people aren't killing themselves over not being able to get alex savage PF's...
    Care to detail the process of getting off said blacklist, or are we going into puritanical scarlet letter territory over video gaming?
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    Last edited by Kallera; 11-05-2015 at 06:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante_V View Post
    The black list isn't mandatory for others to follow, its suggestive, and I don't consider telling others when individuals are dishonest, abusive, or rude to be "public shaming" at all. The japan suicide thing is a little distasteful, off point, off topic, and kinda racist tbh. I'm not sure why it's relevant to the convo. I promise you people aren't killing themselves over not being able to get alex savage PF's...
    My point is that it doesn't work. If you had a community blacklist the community would dwindle from a number of reasons caused by it. You also took what I said completely out of context; I was making a real life correlation on how public shaming does not work from any sort of societal standpoint and i'll leave it at that ok PC bro.
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    Last edited by Starbirth; 11-05-2015 at 07:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starbirth View Post
    My point is that it doesn't work. If you had a community blacklist the community would dwindle from a number of reasons caused by it. You also took what I said completely out of context; I was making a real life correlation on how public shaming does not work from any sort of societal standpoint and i'll leave it at that ok PC bro.
    Isn't the thread topic about how the Japan server community is in a much healthier and positive state than the NA one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
    Isn't the thread topic about how the Japan server community is in a much healthier and positive state than the NA one?
    Yes and No. The real topic is what methods can the NA community use to improve itself. Obviously what works in a specific culture may not work in another and that seems to be the case here. The main thing were looking for is where the bulk of the problem is; is it within the community, is it possible that it is a design flaw caused by SE, or both? The most important thing to take away from this is we're going to go in circles until the thread collapses like a dying star.
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    Last edited by Starbirth; 11-05-2015 at 08:15 AM.