JP server player is calling us out. Step up, NA endgamers.

[Archaell]

My main concern with parsers actually is rooted in the horrible NA community. If all of this side of the community was respectful and ready to help if the numbers don't add up, I'd be all for public parsers.
The thing is - that is NOT how this community acts. So far I've ONLY seen parsers used for people to stroke their ego or to hightail out of content as soon as they saw someone wasn't living up to their expectations right away. So no, I don't think linking this topic to the parser debate is adequate...

Actually this topic is more related to parser than you might think.

It is easy to believe that better players are the evil ones for bailing out or booting underperforming players out of groups. Right now SE doesn't allow you to talk about parsers so you might get into trouble for trying to help somebody who does not want to be helped and who just expects you to shut up and carry them to their rewards. No wonder many players opt out from even trying as it can create more harm than good.

These "anti-elitist" discussions always face the same problem. We look at the top players who behave in a bad way, we want them to be nice to less skilled players, but we also ignore the bottom players who behave in a bad way and actually are the reason why the top is less supportive.

[Fevelle]

I was lurking and reading. This discussion made me remember: is the training grounds coming on 3.1?

[Osmond]

Hmm, I mean the NA/EU community can pull this off, but ..../sigh it just like w/ the JP community, the honesty isn't there. I would like to join learning parties for Alex Savage, yet at the same time the PF in balmung, sometimes I don't even know what they really want. Want clears, but don't be specific on how much knowledge you know or learning parties, but demanding something that they know that they just gonna disband. I do understand that if they make the requirements more specific, how far you or the recruiter progressed, how much they know on the mechanics, how much exp you are on the job you play, etc. yet, it's sad to say, it's not gonna end anytime soon, the mentality of wanting to do what the JP community does.

[Gokuhan]

The problem is we have way WAY too many players that have the "it's just a game, who cares" or "YOLO" mind set and just don't want to put forth the effort truly learning the fight, the way their job should play, or even take the time to gear their job properly and I'm not talking BiS. During my many BisEX PF attempts to clear it, a BLM was using a MND ring just to make the iLv reqs.

[Gamer3427]

Truthfully, ignoring repeated comments, and the ultimate debate about who's right and wrong, this thread is a fascinating read when it comes to analyzing the mindset of the playerbase that uses these forums....

[Starbirth]

Truthfully, ignoring repeated comments, and the ultimate debate about who's right and wrong, this thread is a fascinating read when it comes to analyzing the mindset of the playerbase that uses these forums....

But shifting the blame is the American wa... interesting.

[Nadirah]

To those of you thinking that this applies only to "hardcore" or high end content:

I'm sorry, you're wrong. Being polite and helpful with a modicum of tolerance applies to *all* interactions in co-op play.

[Nadirah]

This is soo subjective, pretty much similar to all your negative posts. If this type of negativity bleeds into your real life, you must be a very unhappy, unfulfilled individual.

Funnily enough, that reason is why I have any tolerance.

"Omg these people are such bloody morons... At least after this run I won't have to deal with them again." - common thought after one ignores instructions.

[RussW]

Aw man not the Japanese again.

[Roegadyn_Bear]

Aw man not the Japanese again.

The Japanese claiming the moral high ground is especially hilarious.

Japanese treat other Japanese players better than North Americans treat other North Americans.