JP server player is calling us out. Step up, NA endgamers.

[Klamor]

To go along with the "they refuse to learn" topic, there are tons of people out there that don't have the time to spare in their lives to read forums on their job, to learn the optimal rotation, test it out on the dummies, etc... I'm obviously not one of them; I spent way too much time on these forums, though I generally don't feel the need to type a reply.

My point is, I'm curious how the difference in living conditions or whatever it is that explains how JPs goes about their business that differs from NA/EU. This might shed quite a bit of light on the issue of the mentality differences on each side of the Pacific. I'm not trying to say that Asians live for pro-gaming or anything; I only can really speak for the generality of the American cultures. Really you've got a couple, or a few, or actually a handful, groups of people.

1) People who work too much and don't have much time to devote to the nuances of the game
2) People who don't work, and play more than enough to read through all material and are generally good enough to clear the highest content
3) People who both work and play at relatively equal amounts; putting forth proper effort in their lives to accomplish the goal at hand, whatever that might be
4) People who simply don't put forth any more effort than is required to achieve a standard level goal (read: level-cap and experts)
5) People who don't fall in any above grouping

I can probably safely assume that here in America we have a large hodgepodge of all of those groups above playing the same game on the same servers, and trying to get into the same groups. Obviously a lot of those people will fall short, simply by the merit of themselves. The ones who do actually make it into your PF in an attempt to clear content such as Savage could be in any of those categories. This is where I must say that I agree that we should all have a teaching mentality. Some will probably recognize me as one with a short fuse, and even shorter patience. I still prefer to teach first, and I know there are those who can back that statement up. The problem lies in how do we do this? How do we recognize what category a new person is in? For starters, we can't. And it's obvious that you'll most often find someone who simply doesn't meet the personal requirements to fit your particular PF, which I can understand (as a low patience person) why so many groups are so reluctant to accept new players for any of the truly serious content (Savage).

So, where or how does the JP community differ here? Do they have more of their player base in categories 2 and 3 above? Is it an abnormal thing in Japan for everyone and their mother to just want to "play a game with their friends" instead of striving for the highest content? These are a couple questions that probably need to be answered before we as a community can even start to make changes.