Block first timers from Party Finder!

[Dualgunner]

Read the thread and then make your conclusion is their point. What the OP actually wants is for people to stop lying and trying to get cleared through content that they didn't earn the clear for. It's not filthy elitist and people who don't have clears aren't filthy casuals.

Also, the option that OP is suggesting is an *option*. Not mandatory "People who've never cleared can not use pf at all" like you would think from just reading the title; just another box to tick in the pf when making one.

[Ageofwar]

Also, the option that OP is suggesting is an *option*. Not mandatory "People who've never cleared can not use pf at all" like you would think from just reading the title; just another box to tick in the pf when making one.

OPTION!!!, what a joke. the moment this is implemented i'll open up PF and about 99% of the parties will have this ticked

the problem is a double edged sword

the reason the people lie and cheat there way into farming parties (not that i would condone this behavior) is

1) people want to be carried
2) people are too frustrated with DF because some "hardcore gamer" didn't get there pony/weapon in 1 try and abandons the party leaving the rest of the party with a 40 min wait

if the OP could come up with a suggestion that benefits both parties then i would be all for it

[WinterLuna]

if the OP could come up with a suggestion that benefits both parties then i would be all for it

Benefits for the other party? Okay.

- Learning and clear parties would fill up a lot more because players can't use others farm parties for their clear.

- They are protected against making the 'mistake' of not reading somebody's party finder or misunderstanding the rules and getting themselves blacklisted when they don't meet the requirements.

- When they actually want to farm something themselves after their initial clear, they will be thankful.

- They have to actually learn the fight and put in effort instead of getting carried, meaning they will know the fight for future reference.

Also, the fact you only acknowledged that this would be an option when someone pointed it out to you proves you've barely read the thread, if at all. If you actually tried to understand it you'd see there's no reason this would be a bad idea other than not being able to sneak in for your precious clears.

[BreathlessTao]

OPTION!!!, what a joke. the moment this is implemented i'll open up PF and about 99% of the parties will have this ticked

It's not like 99% of the parties in PF don't have "farm" and/or "know the fight" and/or "no noobs pls" in their description now...I mean, those that are really forming for duties and are not advertisements or FATE groups. Idk about other servers, but I rarely see a "clear" party up there, and "practice" even less. Really don't feel like such an option would make any difference whatsoever, except maybe for actually saving some headache for those who do want to farm something and not get caught up in teaching and practicing.