Block first timers from Party Finder!

[WinterLuna]

This thread is about PARTY FINDER, NOT Duty Finder. I am aware I chose a bad/misleading title and apologise. I tried changing it myself as well as requesting it to be changed, but is still showing up as the old one.

Dont get me wrong - I help people as much as I can. I join clear groups a lot to help out and am willing to teach people the fight.

However, when I want to farm something quickly, I don't expect players which are new to the fight to join my party finder stating 'no bonus' and 'know the fight' to then mess up multiple times without saying anything.

Sometimes the person knows the fight and stays to farm. But sometimes new people join, mess up, and then get their clear and leave. It's now taken around an hour to form the party and get one kill.. And now I have to find new members to farm with.

I'm simply asking for a setting on the party finder to allow players who have completed the fight only. When you have tried farming something as much as I have and have endlessly had your PF used for free clears or people joining with no clue, it gets boring quickly.

Remember this would be an OPTION. Can new people still be invited to a party? Yes. Can new people still /tell the leader and ask to be invited? Yes. Can they rudely join the party without asking and ignoring rules? No. This would be an option. Also, remember the options are actually already there with 'serious play and high level gear', they just need to be enforced.

Thanks for reading

Funny thing is, if this was implemented, learning and clear parties would fill up more because people can't sneak into farm parties for clears anymore.

[Colorful]

That title is somewhat misleading...

But I support this idea, although I set up a farm party and a newbie joins it's very easy to tell who it is if they don't speak up. They get kicked after the 2nd wipe (only if they're at fault though).

[IzVale]

..and what exactly prevents you from making your own full group with friends/guild members/whatsoever and line up for the pf?

[WinterLuna]

..and what exactly prevents you from making your own full group with friends/guild members/whatsoever and line up for the pf?

And what exactly stops the new members from making their own clear group instead of being rude and joining my party specifically for farms?

[Cenewulf]

And what exactly stops the new members from making their own clear group instead of being rude and joining my party specifically for farms?

Wow. doesnt party finder have a comment section that you could simply type in farming only?

[Archaell]

Wow. doesnt party finder have a comment section that you could simply type in farming only?

Too many players are illiterate. (Or at least pretend to be)

[WinterLuna]

Wow. doesnt party finder have a comment section that you could simply type in farming only?

If it was that easy, I wouldn't have spent my time creating this thread

[Azazua_azura]

Wow. doesnt party finder have a comment section that you could simply type in farming only?

yes it does, but people choose to ignore it. which could be reported on due to it being a player agreement. What op is asking is a tool to help enforce it.

[WinterLuna]

..and what exactly prevents you from making your own full group with friends/guild members/whatsoever and line up for the pf?

Also.. Maybe my friends or FC don't want to farm every single time I want to? The party finder is there for a reason, but people misuse it and it's annoying. Those options for 'newcomers welcome' and 'serious play' are there for a reason but there's no way for it to be enforced when players ignore it.

[Ashkendor]

..and what exactly prevents you from making your own full group with friends/guild members/whatsoever and line up for the pf?

...and what prevents a first-timer from making a learning/clear party of their own instead of sabotaging someone's farm run?

Sometimes you can't find a party of 8 from people you know. I know there's plenty of times when I've only been able to scrape up 4-5 people and we end up pugging the rest. So... that means you should have to endure first timers mucking about and messing up your farm runs? I don't follow your logic here. If I put up a PF for a farm, that should tell people that they need to know the fight. If someone sends me a tell saying they've been to x% and just haven't been able to get a party to clear it, I give them a fair shot. 2-3 wipes is usually enough to tell if they actually do know the fight. If it's clear that that's not the case, I tell them they need to get some more practice and ask them to leave the party (if it hasn't already broken up due to people getting frustrated). It's terribly selfish and disrespectful to jump into a farm run and expect the other seven people to carry you through the fight.

Funny thing is when i enter in "farm groups" we wipe more than in a first clear

Then you're getting into crappy farm groups whose leaders need to learn to kick weak links. :/