MCH..The dying breed?

[Greywolfamakir]

MCH is currently dead in High-End progression. BRD's Foe is the key for DPS checks.

[Velhart]

MCH is currently dead in High-End progression. BRD's Foe is the key for DPS checks.

The world first group had a MCH. Foe's is not -needed-. Hypercharge does very well for physical attack job, especially if you have two tanks, two melee, and the ranged DPS themselves benefiting from it for 24 seconds every two minutes and it does not drain your MP, leaving you open to use MP/TP regen.

[Judge_Xero]

While both BRD and MCN are currently (@ the current gear level) fairly balanced with BRD having the slight edge due to better party utility for cutting edge progression, I feel that they may become a dying breed in either the next gear update or the one after.

Due to gear scaling and with BRD already having the slight edge, it will overpower MCN even in the DPS department. BRD scales well off all stats due to having no AA during WM stance. MCN is limited by SPD due to the turrets not scaling off the stat, but the turrets do scale slightly better off DET, but not nearly enough to compensate for any level of bad gear layouts between the two classes. On top of that, BRD has amazing CRIT scaling due to it's class mechanics, where as the only mechanic MCN could benefit from is a combination of SPD/CRT to push more out of it's Wildfire Burst, but having SPD so detrimental to the rest of the MCN abilities is not good.

Due to the current DPS levels we are seeing +1000 or more depending on the encounter, a 5-10% difference between the two could be a whopping 50-100 DPS, and given the current increase per gear level increase, will be closer to 200-300 DPS in favor of BRD not including the better utility even in a 1Mage + 2 Healer setup due to Foes + RoD.

So while MCN is viable in cutting edge currently, it wont be. It will be SMN VS BLM 3.0

[Greywolfamakir]

While both BRD and MCN are currently (@ the current gear level) fairly balanced with BRD having the slight edge due to better party utility for cutting edge progression, I feel that they may become a dying breed in either the next gear update or the one after.

Due to gear scaling and with BRD already having the slight edge, it will overpower MCN even in the DPS department. BRD scales well off all stats due to having no AA during WM stance. MCN is limited by SPD due to the turrets not scaling off the stat, but the turrets do scale slightly better off DET, but not nearly enough to compensate for any level of bad gear layouts between the two classes. On top of that, BRD has amazing CRIT scaling due to it's class mechanics, where as the only mechanic MCN could benefit from is a combination of SPD/CRT to push more out of it's Wildfire Burst, but having SPD so detrimental to the rest of the MCN abilities is not good.

Due to the current DPS levels we are seeing +1000 or more depending on the encounter, a 5-10% difference between the two could be a whopping 50-100 DPS, and given the current increase per gear level increase, will be closer to 200-300 DPS in favor of BRD not including the better utility even in a 1Mage + 2 Healer setup due to Foes + RoD.

So while MCN is viable in cutting edge currently, it wont be. It will be SMN VS BLM 3.0

+1

Currently, MCH and BRD are pretty balanced, but BRD bring a better performance when the gear is low (Foe + Battle Voice help a lot with DPS checks) and BRD scales a bit better than MCH, for example, if You are searching for "Speed Runs" Imo BRDs are better than MCH (Foe + Battle Voice again),

If foe keeps current state, I mean, +10% magic damage, 20% with BV and MCH don't get an improved version of some skills like Hypercharge, Rend Mind, Dissmantle or Turrets, BRD is better than MCH when you are looking "Best in slot" party member.

Note: I have killed A1, A2 and A3 savage like MCH a lot of times, I like MCH, but I know that BRD brings a better performance than MCH for party and helps a lot with DPS checks. I don't like BRD because looks pretty boring for me, you know, keeps dots, keep straight shot, use EA,use BL when ready, thats all.