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  1. #1
    Player
    Kuroyasha's Avatar
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    Uldah
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    Kuroyasha Tenshi
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Original Post is too lacking of information. Currently it basically reads:

    1. I like Mch

    2. My a3s static group kicked me for low dps

    3. Therefore, mch dps must be low and it needs buff

    You assume from these statements that it can't be you who is doing something wrong, it must be the dev team.

    What are you parsing in comparison to, for example, other machinists who uploaded their info to fflogs? For example, from looking at that site your recorded kills from A1S aren't near the top, or the 75th percentile, or the average 50th percentile, or the 25th percentile. So if you took that same performance into a3s, then it provides some insight as to why they chose to kick you. If you took that same performance in a3s considering that there are significantly more mechanics and dps checks to deal with compared to a1s, your dps is probably lower than a1s.

    You are leaving out information.
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    echoica's Avatar
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    Velvet Aurora
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    There is nothing wrong with mch dps. We have one in our static and his numbers are stupid high. You really need to take a look at how you're playing and figure out more optimal rotations. Yes other factors contribute such as party comp and uptime on mp/tp regen but to be removed from the group I'd say it's more than that.
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    Russell Westbrook
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    Leviathan
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    Machinist Lv 60
    The ability is there. You really have to think ahead about how much time you have to attack the boss before it "disappears" so you can maximize the amount of time you have to attack.

    There is no rotation for MCH except for the opener, after that its all priority and working in OGCDs. Hot shot is high on priority however lead shot, being a decent dot, does not proc anything like dots for bard, when it drops off wait to reapply it at the same time as headgraze, blank, or gauss shot.

    Based on the 180 and 90 second CDs you come across a point in the fight where you do have reload, rapid fire, wildfire, b4b, and hawks eye back up. You can get your opener off minus hyper charge, raging strikes and maybe ricochet. Another time you will have all that up with raging strikes and maybe hypercharge depending. If im on an unlucky string of non-procs Ill go ahead and use ricochet on CD but ideally i want it with my rapidfire.

    Maybe this helped, maybe you already knew it. I figured Id post.
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    Jonnycbad's Avatar
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 100
    Is MCH's +20% damage trait still bugged for the turret?
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    Colette Pascal
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Is MCH's +20% damage trait still bugged for the turret?
    I'm surprised there are so few people mentioning this. I recently got MCH to 40 and found the turret damage was lower than it should have been. It also wasn't affected by Hawk's Eye. I didn't try out other cooldowns.

    A large percentage of MCH's DPS is from the turret, especially for people who aren't at the top of the skill curve. For that to be nerfed out of a trait bonus and unaffected by one or more DPS cooldowns is a substantial handicap. Maybe MCH wasn't supposed to be lower DPS than BRD but are because of those issues?
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    Alahra's Avatar
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    Alahra Valkhir
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by giantslayer View Post
    It also wasn't affected by Hawk's Eye. I didn't try out other cooldowns.
    As far as I know, this part at least should be normal behavior. The trait thing is a bug though, I think.
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    As far as I know, this part at least should be normal behavior. The trait thing is a bug though, I think.
    HE buff should work on turret, since it buffs MCH DEX...and turrets scale from MCH dex... like SMN pets scale from SMN INT
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    Alahra Valkhir
    World
    Balmung
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    HE buff should work on turret, since it buffs MCH DEX...and turrets scale from MCH dex... like SMN pets scale from SMN INT
    But temporary INT buffs (like from potions) don't work on SMN pets, nor do MND buffs affect SCH fairies, so the fact that they don't work on MCH turrets is probably not a bug.
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 100
    Yeah BRD is more specialized. MCH is kinda of spread out all over with their mini virus. I think Leg/Foot Graze are wasted abilities. I think one or both of them should be given 100 potency so it's an added oGCD damage ability like Suppressive Fire/Head Graze are. I think Dismantle and Rend Mind are kind of pointless. 5% for 10 seconds is not very noticable, at least give it a damage component or something. I think Heartbreak should also be a shorter recast...30s vs BRD's 12s is depressing. It's weaker and a longer recast :/
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    Kurique Delasainya
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Use more Bishop.
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