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  1. #1
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    HM01's Avatar
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    Tael Kaito
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60

    MCH..The dying breed?

    I love playing machinist. I love doing all the fancy tricks, stance dancing , all different wildfire combos, etc. I also enjoy raiding, but after my a3s static kicked me because my dps was not enough it left me wondering. I know machinists have been buffed but it just isn't enough. Currently, we do less damage than some tanks and that's just stupid. I mean go to player search and look up the level 60 machinists on right now on your server compared to other jobs. It seriously saddens me that my favorite class has come to this.. to be the outcast. We need something to lift up machinists come 3.1 please.
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    Ashelia Ferron
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    Machinist does fine DPS. Perhaps you just haven't maximized your role yet.

    Besides, having a Bard/Machinist brings good utility.

    Will you ever be top DPS? No. But if your static kicked you, you must have been underperforming. If I recall, Elysium's world first clear used a Machinist.
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    Lyrica_Ashtine's Avatar
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    Sadako Yamamura
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 1
    Underperforming or the group had unrealistic expectations of a machinist damage output (or a bards for that matter). Machinist by itself is "fine", but the gaps between the "decent" machinist and "great" machinists are extremely big compared to other dps jobs. Do you happen to have any footage available if you want some feedback?
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    Mirajane Skysong
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    Odin
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    Lancer Lv 70
    yea sounds like your just missing something, u shouldnt be doing less dps than tanks. our machinist is awesome and regulary sits 2nd/3rd on dps in our group depending on the fight. also i dont know your party composition but if you dont have a dragoon your dps will suffer abit
    check out the MCH threads and find out what your not doing quite right because they certainly dont need a buff
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  5. #5
    Player
    HM01's Avatar
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    Tael Kaito
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60
    I don't think I'm worried about top dps, but when a TANK surpasses or comes close to my dps it is in fact a problem. I've looked up many guides and things about my class and I feel like I'm doing the best I can. I'm even throwing out rend mind or dismantle when it is needed. Can any other machinists speak for me?
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    Caly Umbra
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    It honestly has nothing to do with its performance though when it comes to it not being played by the community. Tons of people express how much they think GB ruins how their guns look and honestly I can't blame them. It's a fun job but that attachment is so ugly I can't touch the job. Also need to take into fact that you're going to see less people as it because at that point they already have a dps at 50+ before unlocking Machinist so why go back and relevel another job?

    Machinist is doing pretty well right now tbh. It's just has some ugly visuals attached to it along with being an archetype that isn't that popular as your common mage or bow wielder.
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    Last edited by Calypsx; 10-26-2015 at 10:57 PM.

  7. #7
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    Ashelia Ferron
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by HM01 View Post
    I don't think I'm worried about top dps, but when a TANK surpasses or comes close to my dps it is in fact a problem. I've looked up many guides and things about my class and I feel like I'm doing the best I can. I'm even throwing out rend mind or dismantle when it is needed. Can any other machinists speak for me?
    Well what are your numbers looking like? If you're sub 1000, then that's a problem. How far off are you from the other DPS. At most you should only be 100-200 behind an equally skilled melee class

    Also as someone mentioned before, if you have no DRG, you're going to be lower. I'm assuming the tank beating you is a WAR, so they'd have the slashing debuff. If you don't also have the piercing debuff, his numbers may approach you
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    Velhart Aurion
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    You should probably mention how much DPS you are doing. If you are under performing, then I agree with them letting you go if you are not willing to improve yourself. There are a lot of things to consider. Are you doing your rotation correctly? Is there a DRG in your party? How often are you using MP/TP regens? Please elaborate on the situation.

    In AS3, if you are lacking and not improving, you are going to suffer under it's intense DPS checks. MCH is not the easiest job to play, but no where near being the hardest either.
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    Gridania
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    Sida Bajihri
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Not sure if player search gives the right picture either. I think it doesn't show people who are in dungeons or such (correctme if I'm wrong) and at least for myself, I hardly stay in my main class outside of daily ex, Alex and such. Much more likely I'll be in crafter/gatherer, or in some of the other classes I'm levening.
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    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

  10. #10
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    Character
    Russell Westbrook
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 60
    Well I think that MCH is one of the funnest classes Ive played out of all the physical dps classes and ive spent quite a bit of time checking my dps in a variety of combat situations. It takes practice. I wont cast lead shot unless its right after or before an OGCD or a proc, little things like that go into it, also blank fits into the rotation. Ill get up a clean shot proc then use quick reload to force a slug shot then go back and forth. I started playing machinist recently to help out a raid group in my FC, youre farther in savage than I am. Ive noticed my dps is a lot higher than I expected especially with people saying how bad mch is. When you factor in party buff, a dragoon, food, and potions it really gets up there. At 193 my opener spikes to 1600 then I can be at 1200-1300 until inactivity like jumps or adds. Thats sufficient to clear most of savage. Did they shaft you on 210 drops?
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