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  1. #11
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    Maaizr's Avatar
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    Isabeau Tphurer
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    Diabolos
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    People are lazy, they think cause they've beaten it before that they don't need to try anymore.


    beat me to it, lol but yeah people love to ignore mechanics too
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  2. #12
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    PotatoWafflez's Avatar
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    Endless Paradox
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    I can't speak for everyone, but I haven't seen a learning party not one or two shot the whole thing for a couple months now.
    Shhh its the new secret code word, people caught onto farm parties being easy wins so the people who actually like to get stuff done started making learning parties because "bad players" avoid them.

    Basically its now Farm = Learning Wipefest
    Learning = Farm

    Just don't tell anyone... >_>
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  3. #13
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    Phireblast's Avatar
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    Mike Fisticuffison
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    Famfrit
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by NovaLevossida View Post
    If you think the farm parties are bad, you should see the learning parties!

    I'm almost scared to go back and do Bismarck Extreme again. Is failing the DPS check still a thing people do with Eso gear?
    As someone who joined a clear party with everyone who has tons of eso and alexander gear a few days ago out of SHEER boredom, yes. It's still a thing and it's pitifully hilarious.
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  4. #14
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    Demogulus-Veisef's Avatar
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    Vain Crusader
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    Coeurl
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Phireblast View Post
    As someone who joined a clear party with everyone who has tons of eso and alexander gear a few days ago out of SHEER boredom, yes. It's still a thing and it's pitifully hilarious.
    This ^

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  5. #15
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    bounddreamer's Avatar
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 70
    I've joined two Bismarck clear parties the past week. In one of them I was top dps (DRG) but the tanks were #2 and #4. In the other, I was #2 on WAR. The other dps are decently geared but not pushing good numbers. One of them was full eso and was the lowest dps. -_-
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  6. #16
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    Gilraen's Avatar
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 70
    While this isn't the first time this particular topic has come up, people seeking to be carried often think farm parties consist of people overgeared 'to there and back again' for what's being farmed. Whether true or not is irrelevant to them, who farms content 'at iL'? I try not to join farm parties as most of the time what's being farmed isn't something I want to farm. I do wish learning parties weren't so bloody rare, though, as there's still content I need to beat.
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  7. #17
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    Demogulus-Veisef's Avatar
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    Vain Crusader
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    Coeurl
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    I've joined two Bismarck clear parties the past week. In one of them I was top dps (DRG) but the tanks were #2 and #4. In the other, I was #2 on WAR. The other dps are decently geared but not pushing good numbers. One of them was full eso and was the lowest dps. -_-
    and then they wonder why they cannot beat Bismark........ they have to learn the hard way that face-rolling through content will no longer fly.
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  8. #18
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    bounddreamer's Avatar
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Yeah I'll give groups three or four attempts but the numbers don't lie. After that I'll excuse myself and go

    People...just go look up info on your rotations. That's what I did for all the jobs I play regularly.
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  9. #19
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    My farm parties have a pretty good track record cause I don't typically farm unless at least 2-3 friends want to go with me.

    Otherwise, I'd just rather find something else to do than deal with 7 pugs.

    I have seen some pretty fail Bismarck EX clear attempts, though.
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  10. #20
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    Amiaze's Avatar
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    Genevieve Mhakaracca
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    Goblin
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    People are lazy, they think cause they've beaten it before that they don't need to try anymore.
    I think this is one of the reasons. But I also think that seeing "farm party" automatically makes people more relaxed...it's similar to having done and perfected a task and then goofing up simply because you've become too comfortable with doing it effortlessly. I joined an Alexander farm party and we wiped...three times, I believe it was? And that was only on A1. After that, though, everything was seamless.

    I think we should also take party dynamics into considering. For instance, a healer in a static might be willing to take one of the exploding spheres if someone misses it. Another healer won't. This difference alone could lead to a wipe.
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