Time on House removal/reclaming is way to short! (private houseing)

[Sicno]

I'm sorry but I have to disagree, I say its a fine compromise, 45 days is more than enough time.

Buying a house in game with gil is like paying a downpayment on a Real Life house, you still gotta pay your monthly mortage for it.
In the game you just have to log in once every 45 days, which of course means you gotta pay your $15 dlls subscription.

And just like in real life if you miss enough payments in a mortage and you get your house foreclosed, same in the game, miss on your subscription and you lose the commodity.

However in real life you get 0% of your investment back after a foreclosure, so at least in game you get 80% of your investment back!

To me thats not shady, thats how the world works.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3380792

[Frost_Trunks]

However I for one am not happy with the current time limit set up in the preview of the system. For all houses, be it FC or Private, you have 45 days to get a member(fc) or the owner (private) to set foot inside the house to reset the timer.

I am sure somebody said something, but I'm not going to waste my time reading through 3-4 pages of replies.

45 day is plenty of time. Suck it up and log in. Log your character out in the house. It will take you less than 5 minutes to log in and gtfo. I find it hard to believe that you can't find time to log in for 5 minutes once every 45 days. smh

[Shirobi]

I am sure somebody said something, but I'm not going to waste my time reading through 3-4 pages of replies.

45 day is plenty of time. Suck it up and log in. Log your character out in the house. It will take you less than 5 minutes to log in and gtfo. I find it hard to believe that you can't find time to log in for 5 minutes once every 45 days. smh

Its not that people think logging in every 45 days is hard, its that too many irl issues can come up that can cause you to miss a month or two and then BAM you've lost everything, and now you have less incentive to even bother coming back.

For people who pay bills or cant afford to instantly buy a new PC or console when an old one breaks down, it pretty much kills the game because who is gonna want to come back after they lose something like that?

[Ayerinn]

So it's really inactive players combined with the fact that SE hasn't implemented a 1 house per account per server rule that is choking the housing market, not the bots.


Ah, well they might be "cheaters" in your eyes but to SE they technically aren't since they aren't circumventing any rules because those rules don't actually exist.

I have mixed feelings about alts owning houses - it is SE's fault for having such god awful relationships between characters on your own account. No shared bank space, can't mail alts, etc. Unless the share house feature is extended to your alts, I don't see it being fair to implement a one house per server/account rule.

[dspguy]

45 days is a fine amount of time.

In my opinion, housing should be used by active players. You aren't active if you aren't playing. And you get back 80% of the purchase price if it is abandoned. And if you don't log on in time to get that, why are you complaining about the loss of virtual real estate in a game you aren't even playing?

[Shirobi]

45 days is a fine amount of time.

In my opinion, housing should be used by active players. You aren't active if you aren't playing. And you get back 80% of the purchase price if it is abandoned. And if you don't log on in time to get that, why are you complaining about the loss of virtual real estate in a game you aren't even playing?

So you'd be fine then if they.. say... deleted all items and gil off characters who arent logged in in 45 days? Or maybe the characters themselves as well.

I mean, afterall those are taking up "server resources" as well. And who cares about the loss of virtual items in a game you aren't even playing...

[Nymeria2x]

"Forty-five days of inactivity the estate will be automatically demolished. Players will have thirty-five days to redeem items from the resident caretaker before they are made irredeemable. Items belonging to a free company estate can only be retrieved by members with the authorization to purchase or relinquish land. Items belonging to a private estate can only be retrieved by the owner."

This plain and simply was and is a stupid idea. People do not log in for a variety of reasons and SE has no idea why someone may not be able to log in atm. The only time this measure would be appropriate is if a player was banned or the character was deleted. It could be as simple as they're burnt out or it could be something as complicated as a severe injury or illness causing them to be hospitalized. People take breaks from the game for school, out of boredom until the next patch, because of finances (money's a little tight, do I want groceries or to spend $15 on a game?), game systems breakdown and you have to save up for a new one, families have crisis, people get sick and hurt, certain jobs such as the military require months away at a time. Basically life happens and the last thing anyone wants is to be punished for dealing with Real life instead of being glued to the damn game every day. Besides this solves nothing, absolutely nothing. There are only enough houses per server for 1-2% of the population of players and that's not including the fact that players have to compete with FCs for houses. There will still be 98% of the server population running around homeless and with no way to use any housing item they may get, such as the seasonal rewards they offer. Why bother putting those in if only 1-2% of the population can use them? Why would people bother to participate if they can't even use the rewards? It makes zero sense and is going to end up as a PR nightmare for SE. They'll push this through, its going to blow up at them with players still demanding housing since they problem hasn't been fixed at all and then they'll have to back peddle and rework the whole housing system if they want to have any hope of actually fixing it instead of driving off players. Congratulations people who pushed this through, you didn't do the math and think about what was actually going to happen.

[Nymeria2x]

45 days is a fine amount of time.

In my opinion, housing should be used by active players. You aren't active if you aren't playing. And you get back 80% of the purchase price if it is abandoned. And if you don't log on in time to get that, why are you complaining about the loss of virtual real estate in a game you aren't even playing?

Are you serious? I'm guessing you've never been deployed or had financial issues or been severely sick or injured? For the people who have its a real kick in the gut to come back to the game you love and discover your stuff is gone. Especially since the time limit for demolition and retrieving your items is so short. 45 day before demolition, 35 days before your stuff disappears. Sounds like crap considering the average deployment is at least 3-6months and is usually far longer. No telling how long someone will be in the hospital after a serious illness or a bad accident. What about when someone's computer breaks down and they need to save up for the sudden expense. There's the dedicated college kids/adults how play during the summer and on holidays while they focus the rest of the time on their work. There are literally hundreds of different reasons life could force you away form the game for an extended period so why should players be punished for dealing with real life? I certainly wouldn't want to continue playing a game if I came back and all the stuff I'd worked so hard for was gone.

[Malicewolf]

I have mixed feelings about alts owning houses - it is SE's fault for having such god awful relationships between characters on your own account. No shared bank space, can't mail alts, etc. Unless the share house feature is extended to your alts, I don't see it being fair to implement a one house per server/account rule.

See, but with this, I have a bit of a problem. So what I'm hearing is, you have multiple houses. If you made all 8 accounts available on a standard service, then you may have taken 8 houses away from people. And this is assuming you aren't taking one for FC's and that you are not in difference FC's on all the alts. So now, you have an abundance of characters, which you only play on some constantly, the other's are most likely (pls note, I'm saying most likely) just a pass time you log into every once and a while. I will agree, this problem could easily be solved if SE just allowed alt's to enter the same house this could be solved. (seriously, they should just add in a renting house/room system :P). But even still, I don't see the need for people to have personal houses on alts. Yea, it's nice that you can, but that just goes along with the whole "if you don't have the time to attend to it, then why not let others who will use it?".

[Nymeria2x]

Not really her problem. Housing should be available to everyone. Atm though SE was dumb enough to not only make just enough houses for 1-2% of the total server population, but they went and made it so private housing and FC housing were the same so we're all competing against each other. Like she said if they allow you to share a house with your alts and added in better features for alts then it wouldn't be an issue but the fact is they didn't so each character is on its own unless your form a private FC. They obviously want people to have alts and understand that people want them otherwise they wouldn't offer the option to have multiple alts on a server. You may not see the need but the fact is that housing is a big part of the game. Its the only way to garden, train and dye chocobos and they keep releasing housing items as holiday rewards so either they believe everyone should have housing to use this stuff or the holiday events are irrelevant to 98% of the player populations.